Playing a draw aggressively

private joker · #1 11-09-2005, 07:24 PM

BB is an unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, UTG folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises...

I intend to call a 3-bet.

Preflop, flop, and river are all debatable, I think.

davet · #2 11-09-2005, 07:32 PM

PF I like. I would want to make sure that UTG comes along for the ride on the flop, and MP2 is scared to call a turn bet, the rest is fine. I think that this is all coin- flip EV- wise.

bakku · #3 11-09-2005, 07:58 PM

easy river 4-bet

private joker · #4 11-09-2005, 08:06 PM

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Why do you think he would 3-bet this river so much more often than 50% of the time with a non-flush hand?

W. Deranged · #5 11-09-2005, 08:13 PM

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I think you are probably underestimating the likelihood that villain would four-bet the flop with just a better flush draw.

Ianco15 · #6 11-09-2005, 08:13 PM

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easy river 4-bet

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Why do you think he would 3-bet this river so much more often than 50% of the time with a non-flush hand?

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I like calling a 3 bet on the river. 4 betting seems like spewing against an unknown. Villan could easily have been pumping his higher flush draw (or maybe a pair and a higher flush draw).

Scotch78 · #7 11-09-2005, 08:18 PM

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So much more? I doubt he's going to fold to a 4-bet so anything over 50% is +EV. And you played the flop pretty aggressively for a flush draw, so he could easily think you're bluffing at the flush and 3-bet with 55 or 22. Also, since your bets trapped callers and his tried to eliminate them, I'd have more confidence in interpreting his flop aggression as a made hand.

Scott

private joker · #8 11-09-2005, 08:24 PM

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So much more? I doubt he's going to fold to a 4-bet so anything over 50% is +EV. And you played the flop pretty aggressively for a flush draw, so he could easily think you're bluffing at the flush and 3-bet with 55 or 22. Also, since your bets trapped callers and his tried to eliminate them, I'd have more confidence in interpreting his flop aggression as a made hand.

Scott

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I said "so much" more because Bakku used the word "easy" w/r/t the 4-bet. If it was just over 50% then it wouldn't be an easy 4-bet, it would be a close 4-bet.

As far as hand reading, I agree with you that his action means made hand and not a draw. But I might play K5s much like this if I were BB.

Greg J · #9 11-09-2005, 08:27 PM

The only thing I see that I would consider debatable is the flop, which I like. Without the gutshot I just call (I still bet out).

I just stoved it and even if BB has a set of 5s yr equity is still 33% on the flop, so if the other two clowns call you are still doing well. (I gave the others a random hand and TPTK.)

ghostface · #10 11-09-2005, 09:57 PM

I like it a lot.