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Old 01-25-2005, 11:50 PM
nmadd nmadd is offline
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Default Playing with someone new....giving too much credit?

I've been playing and studying poker for only 3 months. I guess I consider myself an advanced novice, but certainly not a good player. Here's my question.

I played in a local, multi-table, free tournament yesterday. 3 levels in I'm dealt JJ. I raise 600 (4xBB). Left of me calls, and the next player raises 2x. I call. Flop is 4,3,3 rainbow. Guy left of me bets big and the preflop raiser just calls. I give the raiser credit for having something decent. He's won a couple of pots and shown down some not awful cards (though I probably would not have played these certain cards in his position).

Anyway, I give him enough credit to have some big pocket pair. I think for awhile and fold (terrible). To make a long story short, the other guy calls all the way with AK and the raiser shows down A-4o and wins the pot!

I folded by far the best hand. I gave him way too much credit.

I guess my question is what do you do when you play with people for only a few hands or for the first time? How do you "read" them? How was I supposed to read this guy for A-4? I thought he was better than that.

P.S. I went all in next hand short stacked and his K-10s hit a flush over my 10-10 (that's poker!)
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Old 01-26-2005, 12:11 AM
EverettKings EverettKings is offline
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Default Re: Playing with someone new....giving too much credit?

Couple things.

It's a freeroll. Give players A LOT less credit in freerolls and all low buy-in games.

Second, it's hard to analyze the hand without stack sizes. So post those up next hand.

Tough break tho. Hurts a lot to fold the best hand.

Kings
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Old 01-26-2005, 12:20 AM
nmadd nmadd is offline
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Default Re: Playing with someone new....giving too much credit?

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Couple things.

It's a freeroll. Give players A LOT less credit in freerolls and all low buy-in games.

Second, it's hard to analyze the hand without stack sizes. So post those up next hand.

Tough break tho. Hurts a lot to fold the best hand.

Kings

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Thanks for the quick reply. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

The raiser and I had about the same size stack. He was the one I was worried about. The guy that was just calling probably had about 2x the stack that I had (I would have no problem playing with that guy since he had already shown down 10-6, Q-7 and the like).

Overall, I'm wondering how much credit to give people I've never played with before. It makes a lot of sense to give someone in a freeroll less credit, but if he happens to be decent, I guess that's just the way it goes?
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:27 AM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Playing with someone new....giving too much credit?

Frankly, against the competition you're talking about, after the reraise I'd just go all in PF and watch the A7o call.

Anyway, say you call; now the guy on the left bets the 433 flop, which probably missed him (so he has a pocket pair, 65, maybe A4, maybe A3, who knows or cares the important thing is you probably have him beat because if he has AA-QQ PF his eyes get big and he goes all in) and the second guy just calls (is he tricky enough to call with aces? would a guy like that play a freeroll? no? okay, you have him beat) so go all in.

If not, it's a freeroll anyway so get a beer.
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