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Newbie turning coward?
So I'm at the "I've been going too far with my hands -> I'm folding to any sign of danger " phase in my learning hold'em cycle.
How would you have played the following hands? I just joined the game, all the other players are complete strangers. Hand1: Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 5.75 BB Hand 2: Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, Button calls. Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 7 BB |
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
hand 1- looks good
hand 2 you beat a flush there partner |
#3
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
Hand 1: Call down, or bet river if checked to ui.
Hand 2: Flop good, then either bet/3bet turn or check/raise/cap. |
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
Hand 1- Read? Would donk a 7? Prolly not, so nh. But a significant amount of players will, and you'll have cost yourself $$ if you don't know that for this kind of hand. Reads are good!
[ QUOTE ] hand 2 you beat a flush there partner [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
Hand 1) Seeing as you had no reads, I think this is a reasonable fold.
Hand 2) Everytime you fold in this situation, god kills a kitten. Please tell us it was a mis-click... |
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
did you notice that there was an 8 on the flop and that the turn paired the board?
when you have three of one card and two of another, it is called a full house. chance are when you get one, you'll when with it. |
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
I call down in Hand 1.
I'm not sure what just happened in hand 2 or if I'm even reading the board right but I think you just check/folded a full house? Bet/3-bet the turn. |
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
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Hand1: Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, UTG calls. Flop: (5.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (4.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 5.75 BB [/ QUOTE ] At the beginning of a seesion I might raise/fold this just to make sure he's not screwing around with second pair. Probably 8:1 to fold this. [ QUOTE ] Hand 2: Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, Button calls. Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 7 BB [/ QUOTE ] This is a typo? You folded the 5th nuts? If he had AA he 3-bets the flop because of the two-flush and the likelyhood that you have a big hand worthy of capping. Same with JJ. The only hands you can lose to here are AA, JJ and AJ. I cap the turn and bet/call the river. |
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Re: Newbie turning coward - pasted the wrong hand :-)
Not only do I suck on poker, I suck on Copy&Paste :-)
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Re: Newbie turning coward?
Hand 1---turn fold is very bad, why would you raise preflop,raise the flop and fold the turn with your hand?
Hand 2---THis one is tricky, however you have to call it down. |
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