QQ - Standard?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.

River: (17 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

I'm just wondering if anyone finds a fold?

[car ramrod]

fold the turn.

[Nick Royale]

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fold the turn.

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Outs:
Q: 2
9: 1 (discounted)
[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]: can we count on having ~3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]-outs? I doubt it and facing the risk of a 3-bet I think it's a fold. But it's close. Hitting a Q here could generate us a lot of money.

[jrz1972]

When the turn gets raised, you are now drawing to the third-nut flush (plus a couple of boat outs). When two opponents suddenly spring to life when the flush card hits, your flush outs are much more likely to be dead than usual. (When you called the two bets on the turn, you also had to consider that MP1 might be holding a big club; obviously he wasn't, but you didn't know that at the time).

So I agree with Ramrod that you can fold the turn. If you don't fold the turn, I think the river is actually a pretty easy fold despite the huge pot. Your hand is good here about 0% of the time.

Grunch

At first I would have said fold the turn, but holding the Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] gives you a redraw to a flush. However, you're up against a potential made flush and possible trips or FH and straight draws. 22:1 2x to hit your queens full getting 4.5:1 on your call. You're behind a little bit on the odds to call and I would only figure on collecting MAX 2 more bets if the Q falls.

Without reads, I say toss it to the turn raise.

Grunching...

If we were to fold it might be to the cold call on the turn since neither of those villians raised preflop or flop and there is a pair and a possible flush on the board. Absent any reads I think you got to call down to showdown.