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Old 11-27-2005, 06:23 PM
Rooger Rooger is offline
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Default KK in BB - action in front of you

Do you reraise this one? Push? Flat call?

No reads at all, second orbit.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero?
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

Hmm...

Well since button only had $7, he's irrelevant. You dont want to scare away UTG since he's really the money you want in the hand. I'd flat call this and hope he re-raises.
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

Gotta raise it here, UTG can call profitably with a lot of hands if you just call.
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

We want him in, no? KK is a monster hand and button is already all-in. You want a lesser hand in, plus you've disguised your holding.
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

You havent disguised anything, youve cold called 2 raises. Any smart player should be putting you on one of the top 7ish hands (unless total LAG image)
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

I don't want a lesser hand in in this spot. He gets &gt;4:1 and has position.
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

I think it's a bit tricky. I don't have any image at the table, and haven't played with any of the players before.
If I reraise to say 24, I don't think UTG can put me on anything except KK or AA. He'll probably fold anything except AA &amp; perhaps QQ.

A push might be interpreted as a steal, but I'll probably also get calls only from AA &amp; perhaps QQ.

A coldcall should of course be alarming to villain, but I think my hand range will be somewhat broader - maybe AA-TT + AK. But I will still be OOP, probably playing for an empty sidepot.

I don't like any of those possibilities - but which one is preferred?
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

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Gotta raise it here, UTG can call profitably with a lot of hands if you just call.

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How much would you raise it? What hands would you expect to call the raise?
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

Raise to ~$25 and push non-ace flops
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: KK in BB - action in front of you

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Raise to ~$25 and push non-ace flops

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I follow the raise, but why push any non-ace flop? I'd expect to get calls only from AA &amp; QQ.
If I push the flop (a slight overbet), I'll perhaps get QQ to fold, and get a call from AA.
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