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Old 07-27-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

This is my first post here but I have been lurking for awhile. I have been playing online poker for over a year. I started out with $100 at Pokerroom and ran it up to $200 playing 1/2 about a year ago. I ended up losing it after a few weeks of playing...I was pretty terrible back then.

I became more serious about a month or two ago. I have always been a gambler and have read MANY books on poker and other forms of casino gambling. I felt like I could beat the game, but coming from casino bonuses, I was mainly interested in the poker bonuses.

Here are my stats so far. I started out with .50/1 and was beating the game. However, I knew that my play wasnt very good and have been working to improve. I moved up to 1/2 because I definitely had the bankroll for it. Even though I think I'm playing better, my stats are basically break even over the course of this time.

Here they are: Besides the winrate and BB numbers, all of the rest of the stats are entirely 1/2.








As you can see, I'm basically playing break even poker.

I know that I need to get my preflop raise up and I have been working on doing that. I feel like I have been raising alot more but the number has only improved by a little bit.

In addition, in the last two days, after re-reading SSHE, I went on an amazing run at Empire and won almost $200. I'm sure I was running extremely good but maybe I finally got some of the basics down.

In addition, I can't win at the other sites. I am down almost $150 at crypto's and $150 at absolute compared to being up over $400 at party skins. Not sure what is going on there.

I would appreciate any comments that the experienced posters might have. I have a few hands saved that I am planning to post here soon, but I would like some input on my stats. I think that it would help out greatly.

Thanks,

DrSues02
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

C/r more, steal more, and fold to river bets less.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

Get luckier postflop.

And raise more preflop.

And your VPIP doesn't really change as much as it should from early - late position.

And stop folding the river so much. 57% is like...crazy high.

For only playing a month or two breaking even is fantastic. Keep learning and post hands...good luck

Jon
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

Guess what, your stats don't look half bad. I'm a little looser in the game you play(well I would be I haven't played it in years), but the stats are solid. Your win percentage on the river is a little high, meaning you fold a shade too much but I doubt it's causing much of a loss in your BB per 100.

Now I know 20K hands seems like alot, however I have had runs of 60K hands were I was a significant loser in a game that I maintain a better than 1BB/hr win rate. Quite a few stats trend to reasonable numbers quite quickly but winrate takes forever to lock in.

Oh are you playing full games? For some reason you seem a little too aggressive yet you don't checkraise enough. THe later is not criminal, straight forward play tends to lead to more 3 bets.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

Oh, one more thing, winning at .33BB per 100 is quite good, you are better than 90% of the players out there. If rake was less expensive you would in fact be closer to a 1.3 or 1.5 BB per 100 winner.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

Steal WAY more, fold the river less, fold on the flop more when you dont hit your hand.

Think about position. Your V$pip is similar across all positions.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

My stats are very similar to these. I beat .50/100 for about 4BB/100. However, when I moved up to 1/2 I am only winning at about 1BB/100. Any one have suggestions for gettin Preflop raise % higher and my folded to blind steal and attempt to steal is about the same as well any suggestions for improving these stats.
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: First Post: 20k hands at 1/2 and breaking even...What can I do?

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Now I know 20K hands seems like alot, however I have had runs of 60K hands were I was a significant loser in a game that I maintain a better than 1BB/hr win rate.

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I would like to see your graph of losing SIGNIFICANTLY over a 60k run where you beat the game in the long run for over 1bb/100.

But yes, 20k hands is statistically meaningless in terms of bb/100. Many posters can and have gone -.5bb/100 for 20k and then 2bb/100 for 20k
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:56 AM
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My stats are very similar to these. I beat .50/100 for about 4BB/100. However, when I moved up to 1/2 I am only winning at about 1BB/100. Any one have suggestions for gettin Preflop raise % higher and my folded to blind steal and attempt to steal is about the same as well any suggestions for improving these stats.

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OK to get raise % higher if you are first to open starting from MP on you need ot open raise, not limp, that should increase things a few points for most 1/2 players. As for defending you blinds it would be best to post hands that you question focused on blind defense, and also to search those types of discussions out in the forums.

At the 1/2 level you are being offered 3.5 : 1 on most blind defense situations so you havea good bit of room to defend, however reverse implide odds can be huge and you have to step carefully. The whole ordeal is painfull, but if you can play in such a way that you lose less than 1BB on average in the BB well then your winning aren't you?
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:03 AM
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Now I know 20K hands seems like alot, however I have had runs of 60K hands were I was a significant loser in a game that I maintain a better than 1BB/hr win rate.

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I would like to see your graph of losing SIGNIFICANTLY over a 60k run where you beat the game in the long run for over 1bb/100.


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Sorry I don't give money details, you'll just have to trust an anonymous internet poster.
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