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Old 09-09-2005, 03:56 AM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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Default lost with 99

mp is insanely loose passive. co is a tag. no read on bb.

i guess my main question is about the turn.


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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:08 AM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default Re: lost with 99

I 3-bet preflop to a TAG trying to isolate. I also think it would make the hand a lot easier to play.

As for the rest of the hand, I probably play it the same. I don't fold the turn, but possibly the river with the 4 straight and the fact you are overcalling. The pot is pretty big, though.
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:48 AM
SteveGriff SteveGriff is offline
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Default Re: lost with 99

I would have probably 3-bet pre-flop and lead. When mr passive raises the turn your probably in trouble.

Steve Griff
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Old 09-09-2005, 04:50 AM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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Default Re: lost with 99

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I would have probably 3-bet pre-flop and lead. When mr passive raises the turn your probably in trouble.

Steve Griff

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the turn raiser wasn't mr passive.
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:32 AM
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I 3-bet preflop to a TAG trying to isolate. I also think it would make the hand a lot easier to play.

As for the rest of the hand, I probably play it the same.

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Old 09-09-2005, 06:26 AM
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MP is über loose, u won't drive him out by 3betting while he has already donated money to the pot. A loose BB might call as well. By calling u got excellent postion to raise the flop to protect ur hand.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:52 AM
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I would still 3bet preflop. I'd rather 'protect' my hand preflop and knock out the blinds, than trying to protect my hand on the flop. Which usually doesn't work against these loose-passives.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: lost with 99

Pre-flop I 3-bet, the rest looks good to me.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:36 AM
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MP is über loose, u won't drive him out by 3betting while he has already donated money to the pot. A loose BB might call as well. By calling u got excellent postion to raise the flop to protect ur hand.

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With the described players your equity edge might be enormous preflop. Easy 3-bet IMO to push it. If MP or BB would call with quite possibly 1-2 undercards each that is their problem not yours.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: lost with 99

You are beat on this turn. Fold. I would call down a check-3bet but not a cold call/turn raise. Also, not 3betting preflop cost you the hand.
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