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Old 07-03-2005, 03:17 AM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (6 handed) converter

BB ($2111.50)
UTG ($1990)
MP ($382)
CO ($2624)
Button ($1632)
Hero ($2975)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $80</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $80, Hero calls $70, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($260) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $220</font>, Button folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $480

should I be checkraising this, leading and folding to a raise or what? Unknowns in hand.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:20 AM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

I think that's a standard fold against an unknown UTG raiser. Leading may have been better, but who's to say he won't raise with AK? I think the fold is fine.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

Id check raise this to see how much UTG likes his hand, make it like 600.
If you lead, hell probably raise on that board and put u on the defensive.
If you CR that flop, he calls and u lead turn..hes most likely mucking his overpair.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:31 AM
Garland Garland is offline
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

Hand values go way up in 6-handed hold 'em, don't forget. UTG could easily be making a continuation bet on two big cards on such an innocuous flop. I prefer to lead out $200 and claim the pot. Do your own betting, as I don't feel comfortable risking letting a free card peel for two opponents. I'd consider a check-raise if you were heads up.

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Old 07-03-2005, 03:38 AM
DarreniHH DarreniHH is offline
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

Put it this way,

You're under the gun with AcKc you raise. two calls, this flop. What do you do?

I hope you awnser is...you bet, Because I know I would. Check-raise here is key, i checkraise to 650 to tap him something, let him know that I like my hand and see what he does. Chances are you're taking the pot down.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

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Hand values go way up in 6-handed hold 'em, don't forget. UTG could easily be making a continuation bet on two big cards on such an innocuous flop. I prefer to lead out $200 and claim the pot. Do your own betting, as I don't feel comfortable risking letting a free card peel for two opponents. I'd consider a check-raise if you were heads up.

Garland

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i hate leading out on this board, i much prefer a check raise.

leading out SCREAMS medium pocket pair on this, the most innocuous of all flops, ever. AK might reraise you, knowing exactly what's going on, that a medium pocket pair is testing the waters against the preflop raiser. if i had AK and someone led, i'd raise. if they had a 2 they'd get 600 from me on a bluff but chances are i'm taking the pot when i raise... therefore this board sucks for 99 but it's 6 max. i'd check raise and slow down to a screeching halt if called.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

I'd c/r to 600. If he calls, then you have to re-evaluate on the turn. He probably has an overpair after the call. I would either push or check/fold this turn. Probably, check/fold after being called on the flop.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

I like leading if Villain will lay down overcards to a bet in position. If he'll call the flop hoping to hit his missed AK, checkraising is a lot better. I would rarely check/fold this.
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

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that a medium pocket pair is testing the waters against the preflop raiser. if i had AK and someone led, i'd raise.

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We're not all like you, and I feel that most will lay down their two big cards (not necessarily AK, but KQ or KJ as well) with two opponents. Of course I'm willing to lead if I actually had the 2 or a 66 full house as well.

Granted I haven't played the 10/20 blind games, so I'm not completely familiar with their aggression and who is capable of what.

Garland
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Old 07-03-2005, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: 2000 nl.....(99)....I feel like a pansy?

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i hate leading out on this board, i much prefer a check raise.

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I agree 100%, when an opponents lead into me, assuming they aren't rocks, I normally smooth call and take the pot away on the turn...
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