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Old 06-08-2005, 03:13 PM
The Goober The Goober is offline
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Default I virtually never cold-call...

... but I'm trying to find the right spots to do it.

Live 8-16. Table has been playing generally pretty passive and a little loose. UTG is mostly unknown, but seems to be relatively tight. CO is a total unknown. BB seems like a reasonable player, but I've seen him get oddly aggressive before. He just busted out of a big tourney, FWIW. Virtually nobody in this game is folding their blinds PF for a raise.

Standard?

Preflop: Hero is button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:15 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

3bet
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

Good time for a cold-call (one of the few). 3-bet the turn and/or raise the river.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

Any reason you didn't three bet? I probably re-raise 75% of the time Cold-call 20, fold 5% (with read)

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

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... but I'm trying to find the right spots to do it.

Live 8-16. Table has been playing generally pretty passive and a little loose. UTG is mostly unknown, but seems to be relatively tight. CO is a total unknown. BB seems like a reasonable player, but I've seen him get oddly aggressive before. He just busted out of a big tourney, FWIW. Virtually nobody in this game is folding their blinds PF for a raise.

Standard?

Preflop: Hero is button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

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I would have 3bet, especially if the blinds won't fold for 2 either (this wasn't clear in your post). A huge bloated pot with AQs in position is pretty good.

TT?
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:19 PM
ihardlyknowher ihardlyknowher is offline
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

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fold 5% (with read)

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If by read you mean your opponent turned over his cards and you saw AA, KK, or QQ, then yes; otherwise folding is crazy.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

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Any reason you didn't three bet? I probably re-raise 75% of the time Cold-call 20, fold 5% (with read)

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

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which is more important, the read on PFR or the blinds? To re-raise I say more PFR, but I need some sick reads on the blinds to fold here.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

I play it the same.

I don't like 3 betting the turn. I think there's a decent chance you're behind.
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:23 PM
ihardlyknowher ihardlyknowher is offline
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

What hand is there a "decent chance" he is behind to?
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Old 06-08-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: I virtually never cold-call...

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Any reason you didn't three bet? I probably re-raise 75% of the time Cold-call 20, fold 5% (with read)

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

which is more important, the read on PFR or the blinds? To re-raise I say more PFR, but I need some sick reads on the blinds to fold here.

[/ QUOTE ]

If i thought the blinds were going to fold I'd muck.

If i thought the blinds would play, i'd call

If i thought the PFR would only raise AA, KK, AK, QQ, JJ and the blinds would play - i may still fold.

I probably overstated the 5%.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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