Your thoughts?

HonchoOverload · #1 06-18-2005, 10:51 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t17160)
MP3 (t52345)
Hero (t5045)
Button (t5951)
SB (t12245)
BB (t22081)
UTG (t8283)
UTG+1 (t21273)
MP1 (t6779)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

UTG+1 limps, MP3 limps. all else fold. Hero?

UTG+1 is a fairly solid player.

adanthar · #2 06-18-2005, 10:53 PM

Hit a set and hope he has aces.

HonchoOverload · #3 06-18-2005, 10:54 PM

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Hit a set and hope he has aces.

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You must be a pro

Piers · #4 06-18-2005, 10:57 PM

With antes I think this is an easy push, even without antes I still think its a push.

HonchoOverload · #5 06-18-2005, 11:00 PM

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With antes I think this is an easy push, even without antes I still think its a push.

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what range of hands would you put UTG+1 on? 88-AA and AJo+? possibly KQ?

Piers · #6 06-19-2005, 12:09 PM

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what range of hands would you put UTG+1 on? 88-AA and AJo+? possibly KQ?

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Don't know you tell me, however its not as important as you might think. Its your stack size that is the key consideration.

adanthar · #7 06-19-2005, 12:15 PM

His range doesn't really matter (it does, but only in the sense that you are guaranteed to be a dog to it) so much as the fact that a push is getting called.

Taking a flip would obviously be OK for your 8 BB stack, but I think overall you're a big dog against a solid player's range up there (let's put it this way: this is something speculative that's still a favorite over you like QJs, *or* a monster.) Oh, and there's MP3, who has a 50K stack and likes seeing flops.

Normally the implied odds aren't there for you to see this flop, but with a loose guy in, another guy who's got a good chance of having aces up front, and the occasional 654 flop you will also like, you can just barely make this limp with position. Obviously, if a blind pushes and it's folded to you, you call.

In short, hit a set and hope he has aces.

11t · #8 06-19-2005, 12:20 PM

pushes and it sucks when UTG+1 calls with AA or whatever he limped with.

HonchoOverload · #9 06-19-2005, 01:52 PM

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pushes and it sucks when UTG+1 calls with AA or whatever he limped with.

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UTG+1 didn't have a pair...but even when he had what I wanted him to have, overcards, I wasn't exactly in great shape when he called with AQ and spiked his ace. MP3 folded.

In short, I got probably the best case scenario...but I was still running a race. I guess I wonder if a muck is better with a solid player limping early, and maybe push in a different spot...