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Is this good play or reckless chip spewing?
No read on opponent -- first hand.
Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks. River: (4.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font> ... |
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Re: Is this good play or reckless chip spewing?
calling the flop raise and having no action on the turn is bad. i doubt you'll get away with this often enough.
do yourself a favor and give up on the flop. |
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Re: Is this good play or reckless chip spewing?
check/fold the flop. If you really want to donk as a bluff then fold the raise
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Re: Is this good play or reckless chip spewing?
This was pretty weak. First I fold in the BB with Q5s. Second, check/fold the flop is your best option. bet/fold is crappy but certainly better than bet calling. Betting the river is oooooook, there's a lot of hand that beat you that he might fold. However, in a small pot like this on the flop it is almost always better just to give it up before you end up losing multiple BBs
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Results and thoughts
Thanks CDC. That's sort of what I figured. But it's hard not to be results oriented in these situations.
I think folding pre-flop is too weak. Raiser is in position to steal and my hand is good enough to defend. Had there been a limper before the raiser, it's an easy muck pre-flop. Here's what I was thinking after the flop. Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero pauses until after the alert. Hero finally considers the combination of backdoor straight + backdoor flush + possibility villain is on steal is enough to call the flop raise. Hero calls. Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, CO checks. River: (4.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero thinks about his pause on the flop and the fact that villain checked the turn. Hero thinks villain is scared hero has a big hand now. <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds. Final Pot: 5.25 BB Like I said, I don't want to be results oriented. So good input is good. Frivolous useless input is useless. I don't like not having a read on my opponent. But this is my first hand. So I don't have a read. I just know he's in position to steal. But at this limit, how many players steal? [gripe] what's up with the donk? Seems everybody and everything is donk, donk, donk. People are just playing poker. Just because you think a bluff won't work doesn't make it a donk bet. Just because someone makes a value bet that obviuosly is valueless in your eyes, deosn't make them a donker. It's just poker. People are playing and they play however they see fit. Just take advantage of their weak play. [/gripe] That was a crappy gripe, but oh well. |
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