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shaky play with AK
Hello. This is my first post so if things aren't clear, let me know.
I want to improve my play so feedback would be appreciated. Thanks. PokerRoom MTT 5+1 with 247 starting blinds are (25/50) UTG+3 opens with a raise of 500. This is about 1/3 of his/her stack. I don't have a read as I was moved to this table 3 hands ago. Everyone folds around to me in the CO with AK and ~1500. I call, and everyone else folds. The flop comes J high with 2 small cards, rainbow. UTG+3 bets 200 into the 1000 pot, and I raise my remaining 1000 all-in. UTG+3 calls and shows wired jacks for a set. They hold up. I'm out in 169. My thoughts: Preflop: The big bet made me think UTG+3 didn't want called. I don't think calling was the best action. That leaves me with folding or raising all in preflop. Flop: With the little bet, I thought he/she was trying to push me off the pot at minimum cost. I don't think UTG+3 can call my raise at that point without an over pair or better. Why raise that much preflop with AA, KK, QQ? Of course, that's my thought process, not his/hers. Conclusion: I think I got tied to my hand and should've folded when I missed the flop. |
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Re: shaky play with AK
Calling PF was your only mistake. He made a pretty standard bet indicating a high PP. He was inviting action from other premium hands and pushing out junk. You don't have the depth to reraise a lot here, so pushing PF would have been best.
Since you didn't list suits I'm guessing you weren't suited and there was no flush draw. More often than not, with a spread flop and no suits, a small bet like that is actually designed to keep you IN the hand. If the flop had been AJT or 2 to a suit, he'd have bet larger (most likely all-in) to protect his set and drive out any drawing hands, and get paid off by an Ax hand. Since you missed and he bet out, this would have been a good laydown. |
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Re: shaky play with AK
Just another bad play with the ultimate donkey hand AK...
If yu just call preflop yu really have no idea what he has. If yur gonna play AK here i like a reraise to clarify where yur at. A lay isnt horrible here pre-flop, i dont care what people on 2+2 say if yur in a cumfy tourney postion why are you gambling with no reads...Dude could have AA or KK looking for a reraise, then yur in super big trouble no matter what flops...My basic point is AK is not to be grouped with AA KK QQ as a hand that bascially HAS to be played most times... |
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Re: shaky play with AK
the tournament is obviously still very early, the bettor makes a raise of 10x BB overbetting the pot, and you are holding nothing more than an A high. At this point in the tourny this should be an easy fold but if you decided you really wanted to gamble and more than likely be in a race with AK then you need to push PF but there's no way you can call that size raise and then fold on the flop when you miss. AK is a great hand if you think you have folding equity which in this case I don't think you have and if you do get called you're normally only a slight underdog.
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Re: shaky play with AK
It's opponent dependent. I like fold best, but pushing in is ok too. calling is bad however. What does his giant preflop overbet of 10xbb mean? Since its 1/3rd of his stack, I would expect it to be a decent hand and that he won't fold.
if he has a pair you are an underdog so fold. If you think he'd do that with AQ/AJ type hands then you have good EV, so the real question to answer here is, how would he play weaker Aces? On the flop, you are either way behind to a pair, or ahead of any non-pair hand (usually an Ax -- which means he's drawing to 3 outs. So calling is clearly best to hope to hit your hand (unless you want to fold, which is fine too). Pushing does nothing for you tho. -greg |
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Re: shaky play with AK
How in the world is pushing here "good"?? How is a move where if yur called yur hoping to get to 44% win rate good early in a tourney unless its a huge semi bluff on a huge pot alot further along in a tourney i just dont get some ideas in here [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: shaky play with AK
In low buy-in tournaments, a huge bet like this almost always represents a big pair. If you push pre-flop, you will surely get called and I'd be shocked if you weren't a dog, perhaps a huge one (against AA or KK). I think I would fold this reluctantly. It's just too early in the tournament.
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Re: shaky play with AK
Hello. I just wanted to thank everyone for the advice and information.
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