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Old 02-07-2005, 09:38 AM
boondockst boondockst is offline
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Default anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

This happened to a friend who was in a $20+2 with me on party....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

(t765)
<font color="#C00000">SB (t955)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB (t2060)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t880)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 (t795)</font>
UTG+2 (t1335)
MP1 (t1420)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 (t1135)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP3 (t1060)</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO (t730)</font>

Preflop: BB is with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] .

Flop: (t30) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets t40</font>, MP1 calls t40, CO calls t40, <font color="#CC3333"> raises to t80</font>, BB calls t80, UTG+2 calls t40, MP1 calls t40, CO calls t40.

Turn: (t430) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(10 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333"> bets t85</font>, BB calls t85, UTG+2 calls t85, MP1 folds, CO calls t85.

River: (t770) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(9 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t175</font>, calls t175, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t700</font>, UTG+2 folds, CO calls [t370] t175, folds.

Final Pot: t1820



BB has 3c 8c (full house, threes full of eights).
CO has 8d 8s (full house, eights full of threes).
Outcome: CO wins t1820.
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:50 AM
tiger7210 tiger7210 is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

fold preflop.
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:57 AM
boondockst boondockst is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

ah missed that he did that....ok....pretend you see a flop....and then? [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:00 AM
woodguy woodguy is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

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ok....pretend you see a flop....and then?


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If he sees the flop hes going broke.

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Old 02-07-2005, 11:14 AM
JaBlue JaBlue is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

I didn't have to read the thread to know the answer to this question. But I did anyway, and the answer's the same: no.
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Old 02-07-2005, 12:57 PM
tiger7210 tiger7210 is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

Once you see the flop, no way not to go broke here or you would have to be extremely weak/tight or have an incredible read.
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Old 02-07-2005, 02:16 PM
IgorSmiles IgorSmiles is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

You gotta bet that flop harder. Checking up front is fine, but how do you not reraise? 10 players to the turn? Not sure if CO folds 8s to a big check raise on the flop, but he should as it's obvious that hero has a 3 if he does.
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Old 02-07-2005, 02:29 PM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

This post is awful.

If you for some god awful reason call 2 raises PF with 83 and then flop trips and turn a boat, then of course you arent getting away from the damn hand because otherwise you fold preflop. This is a dream. Im sorry you got rivered by a set of aces. A shame really. There are times to be creative, and there is pure stupidity. I am not one usually to critize a preflop call but this.... It must be tons of fun playing two cards that add up to 11 but are 5 apart in early position.
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Old 02-07-2005, 02:39 PM
kevstreet kevstreet is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

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If he sees the flop hes going broke.

Regards,
Woodguy

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Exactly, short and sweet.

Seeing the flop for free and then making a hand always gets me in trouble. It seems I either take down a small pot or lose a big one.

Oh and I don't think he called two raises preflop, think he limped in, unless I read it incorrectly.
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Old 02-07-2005, 02:41 PM
IgorSmiles IgorSmiles is offline
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Default Re: anybody get away from this seemingly BB special?

Strassa, did i miss something? I thought he limped in pre. Calling one raise much less two is pretty weak. But assuming he limped, and then check raised the flop hard, if there still are multiple callers then I'd say he still has a chance to get away without too much damage, especially since his opponent got cute on the turn and didnt put the hammer down until the ace fell, and A/3 is certainly a possibility in this spot.

I'd double down the flop then split my 8s on the turn.
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