Jacks

Jorge10 · #1 08-29-2005, 05:34 PM

Ok Villan is pretty straight forward, likes to call with big slick preflop and sticks around with big slick if you make it cheap enough.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Folder1 folds.
Folder2 folds.
Folder3 folds.
Hero raises [$1.50].
Folder4 folds.
Villan raises [$2.75].
Folder5 folds.
Folder6 folds.
Folder7 folds.
Folder8 folds.
Hero calls [$1.25].

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero bets [$3].
Villan is all-In [$44.95]
Hero ?

I knew he had an over pair preflop, but I couldnt help but bet on the flop because I knew if he called he had two overs, but I knew better than to bet, thats what annoyed me. The problem is that I thought just checking seemed too weak. What do you guys think?

djoyce003 · #2 08-29-2005, 05:35 PM

fold

Jorge10 · #3 08-29-2005, 05:59 PM

Hero folds.
Villan does not show cards.
Villan wins $53.25

Yes I folded I just hated my flop bet, what do you guys think of that?

bravos1 · #4 08-29-2005, 06:07 PM

you seem to have a good read on the villian, but what do you think is his read on you? This can drastically change your read on him [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] If he thinks your pretty LAGgy, he could easily raise here with 88 or 99. Or does he think your are a rock and only raise with TT-AA and AK? Many tables I play at, I would have no problem raising w/ 99 against a rather loose player (read most players) if I know he raises or specifically re-reraises with things like AT, AJ, KQ, KJ, KT suited or not (which way too many do for some reason). I feel that this is a fairly standard play to isolate if he has a mid-high pp like 88 or 99 if he sees you as either. This is even more true since you only called his reraise and he is probably putting you on a mid pair or 2 broadway cards since you would of definately reraised again if you had AA or KK. I think checking here gives you the best read and if he does have QQ-AA, he may not want to scare you away with a big bet and still give you a cheap turn if you show weakness(doubtful though), but even if he pushes, it still saves you the $3 bet.

While this does scream OVERBET, I would definitely fold this as too many hands either beat you or are a coin flip that it is not profitable.

And if he did have QQ-AA, just be happy that it did not cost you more.