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Old 11-30-2005, 06:42 AM
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Default a couple top pair hands

Party NL $50 6-max. I just recently moved up after beating NL $25 6-max for 15bb/100 over 15k hands.

First hand: I just recently sat down, and had 30 hands on villain from datamining, he's 91 VPIP/33 PFR/5.2 PFA. I generally had the feeling during this hand like he was trying to take advantage of the fact that I (as far as he knew) had no read on him. Is flat-calling his re-re-raise a donk move? This isn't something I do often, but against someone as LAGgy as him I figured it might help me extract more postflop. Alas, scary board. His flop bet screamed "I want a cheap turn" so I pretended he checked...turn play is probably what I'm most unsure of.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($134.70)
BB ($29.75)
UTG ($51.48)
MP ($93.05)
CO ($58.80)
Hero ($49)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $7</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($15.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, UTG calls $7.50.

Turn: ($31.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, UTG calls $36.48 (All-In), Hero calls $14 (All-In).

River: ($102.23) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $102.23


Second hand:

Same situation, different table; just sat down, had villain at 40/10/2.5. The whole thing felt somewhat perplexing; flop raise could be a free card or set, but then why did he make such a small turn bet? I think it's an easy call with the Ac; if I'm club-less, do I fold there? I also think it's an easy river call since he gave me 4.5:1.

Of course, there's also a million spots throughout the hand I could have raised (mainly, I'm thinking re-raise flop to $16-$20, fold to a push?); I felt donk-ish check-calling it down, but I kinda felt like a deer in headlights.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($83.80)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($91.60)
UTG ($67.35)
MP ($45.50)
CO ($69.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $1.75</font>, BB calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $8</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($22) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7.

River: ($36) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

Final Pot: $56

There are a decent amount of times I find myself in twilight zone-ish spots against strange players like this, so I'd appreciate opinions on my lines here.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: a couple top pair hands

Hand 1 - when somebody minraises, then you reraise, and then they min-reraise then its usually a big hand (like KK/AA). You have AA. so you can often push here and get called by a worse hand.

The flop is the worst possible for you, and then he bets min and calls a "small" raise. He probably has KK. The club hits the turn, so now you dont beat anything apart from JJ and AK with only one club, which doesnt seem likely. And then you get all in.

I make it 25 to go preflop and then I hate this flop but its too late for me, and the rest goes in.

I also make it 6 to go in the first place, if he minraises he makes it 11, and then you can make it 30, or just go ahead and push.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: a couple top pair hands

HAND 1: I'm fine with reraising again preflop...looks like he has a big hand, so get him to pay more money. As played, I'd be very very cautious on this flop, and I'd be trying to get to showdown as cheaply as possible. I would have checked behind on the turn, and probably folded on the river to any kind of strength.

HAND 2: I raise that turn hard
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: a couple top pair hands

So in hand 2, turn is a CR? What do you put Villain on after his bet? What do you do if the Ac is a heart instead?
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