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Old 12-19-2005, 09:13 PM
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Default ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t2565)
Button (t2250)
Hero (t1645)
BB (t1540)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t800</font>, Hero????

What is your play? If you fold, what do you call with?
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

How much FE do you think we have, and what do you think his range might be?? What do you make of his 4xbb raise??
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

I was hoping you'd tell me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Bubble has been fairly static... people grabbing the blinds from the seat to their left and passing them to the seat on their right.

For range I'd guess 22+, A2+, K5+, QJ+

If we were ITM I'd just push. In fact normally I'd just push. But some people here lately say my bubble play "makes them want to vomit" or worse. I've always been very aggressive on the bubble, figuring everybody else is tight. I bust out on the bubble a lot more than I place third or second. I've been told by numerous posters that my focus is to survive to third then play for first.

So my question is, is this one of those fold-to-get-to-third type of plays, or do I push?
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

[ QUOTE ]
I was hoping you'd tell me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Bubble has been fairly static... people grabbing the blinds from the seat to their left and passing them to the seat on their right.

For range I'd guess 22+, A2+, K5+, QJ+

If we were ITM I'd just push. In fact normally I'd just push. But some people here lately say my bubble play "makes them want to vomit" or worse. I've always been very aggressive on the bubble, figuring everybody else is tight. I bust out on the bubble a lot more than I place third or second. I've been told by numerous posters that my focus is to survive to third then play for first.

So my question is, is this one of those fold-to-get-to-third type of plays, or do I push?

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If his range is that.. then it's just about a push, but it's REALLY thin.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

btw reasonable time to stop and go instead of push.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

The one issue I have with stop and go is.. well two actually, not closing the action is one, and the other is you will have only 845 to put into the flop when the pot will be 1800.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

You need a read here, big time.

You have to win 61.4% of the time against his range, and you also have to understand that pushing here he only needs to be a 35% favourite to call you.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: ($33) Bubble: AQ in SB vs. PFR from button

I would push against all but the tightest buttons with AQ. 4 BB looks like he wants a fold to me. I am usually aggressive enough (and playing against bad enough players) that weaker aces will call my push. It sucks if you are flipping a coin, you have enough overlay and there is no very short stack so you have to win chips to win anyway. I think you have some fold equity here, especially if he has a very small pair or Kx or other garbage. Added benefit if he folds will be fewer pure steal attempts against your blinds.
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