Maybe this is an interesting hand???

hurlyburly · #1 07-24-2005, 10:08 PM

Just double checking, am I as clearly beaten in this hand as I told myself I was? Early, noone is out of line, villain seems square overall.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t2330)
MP1 (t955)
MP2 (t2840)
MP3 (t1630)
CO (t3755)
Button (t1570)
SB (t305)
BB (t3310)
Hero (t1930)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t150, 2 folds, MP2 calls t150, 5 folds.

Flop: (t375) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t200, MP2 raises to t600, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1175

TxSteve · #2 07-24-2005, 10:11 PM

i definitely don't fold this one.

i've seen this move fairly often by hands you beat..ace worse kicker.

i suck at this game....but i don't like the fold

mts · #3 07-24-2005, 10:13 PM

are you kidding me? weaaaaaaaaaaaak

hurlyburly · #4 07-24-2005, 10:30 PM

What's weak? PF raise? Flop bet? I see him having at worst AK here, probably something better. I didn't ask, but I am sure I was beaten here just by the betting pattern.

It's also early enough that I don't feel the need to gamble here. Is that fundamentally wrong?

TxSteve · #5 07-24-2005, 10:40 PM

so you're only gonna call raises with the near nuts?

rockythecat99 · #6 07-24-2005, 10:44 PM

This is horrible. If you are going to play this weak tight you should only play aces then. Seriously though he will have AJ-A2 more often here than AK. What flop would you want AQQ???

Pat Southern · #7 07-24-2005, 10:47 PM

Remember that your opponents aren't world class players, I understand that against a very good player you're probably beat, but without an incredible read, I'd call and check raise the turn.

hurlyburly · #8 07-24-2005, 10:52 PM

No, I think I misplayed the flop. This hand gave me the shivers. I thought I was behind when he called PF. Would AJ or A9 be a good fold here?

Glad i got good responses, here's the results of your advice:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (8 handed) converter

BB (t14999)
UTG (t20430)
UTG+1 (t44831)
MP1 (t75456)
MP2 (t19006)
CO (t7630)
Button (t12470)
Hero (t35332)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises to t2400, 3 folds, Hero raises to t6000, 1 fold, MP1 calls t3600.

Flop: (t12450) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t29257 (All-In), MP1 calls t29257.

Turn: (t70964) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t70964) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t70964

KyleM · #9 07-24-2005, 11:00 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Just double checking, am I as clearly beaten in this hand as I told myself I was? Early, noone is out of line, villain seems square overall.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t2330)
MP1 (t955)
MP2 (t2840)
MP3 (t1630)
CO (t3755)
Button (t1570)
SB (t305)
BB (t3310)
Hero (t1930)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t150, 2 folds, MP2 calls t150, 5 folds.

Flop: (t375) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t200, MP2 raises to t600, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1175

[/ QUOTE ]

hmm this is a really weird raise. You're raise pretty clearly puts you on an ace, so I think making this raise with AK, A7, or AT would be really dumb considering there is a possibility that you fold here with a hand that would almost definitely pay off a lot more. Same thing with a set, I dont understand why he would raise so much considering you a 2-outer at best to hit another ace. I'd almost have to put him on KK-JJ here, or AXs, though the raise has kinda got me confused. He's either making a play on you, or he knows he has you beat and is playing unconventionally so that it looks like he's trying to represent more than he has, even though he really has the hand. I'm probably calling here and firing out half the pot on the turn and folding to a raise. If he's making a move on you with a weaker hand, I can't see him raising the turn. Considering the raise you called on the flop, I can't see him raising you on the turn with anything that doesn't have you beat.

TxSteve · #10 07-24-2005, 11:01 PM

i'm not sure anyone advised that

meaning...i'm not sure anyone advised open pushing on the flop with AQ on an AJx board