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09-29-2004, 08:34 PM
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73 soooted flops a flush draw
Paradise Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.05. UTG calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font> SB folds, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls. Still bet the flush draw for value with a paired board? Turn: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls. I should have folded to the raise after one other player already called, right? Anyone not like leading the turn? River: (10.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font> MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero folds. Final Pot: 12.50 BB 
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#2
09-29-2004, 08:40 PM
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Re: 73 soooted flops a flush draw
Betting this turn is pretty bad. I'd check/call if there were no overcalls, and check/fold with an overcall. The pot is small, and the board is double-paired. Not a spot I like to be playing any flush draw in, let alone the non-nuts.
Rob
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#3
09-29-2004, 08:45 PM
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Re: 73 soooted flops a flush draw
Turn's a (semi?-)bluff, not a value bet; I was hoping no one caught a piece of the flop and would fold to a bet. Given this reasoning, folding to the raise seems pretty obvious. I overlooked the tiny pot size at the time, because taking that into account I like your line much better.
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#4
09-29-2004, 08:47 PM
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Re: 73 soooted flops a flush draw
Topspin, do you know your VP%IP?
I would never play 73s unless I was a blind. Even had I done so, I wouldn't have bet the turn (can anyone tell me if I am wrong about that?). You are, in essence, charging yourself for the flush draw. Then I certianly would not have called the raise. Unless the pot is gigantic, you almost never have pot odds for two bets on a flush. You flush isn't likely and you are losing to anyone with a bigger card than you. Not to mention a double paired board just reaks of a boat. The river fold is probably OK, anyone with a 9 or better in thier hand is beating you. I hate to fold for one bet on the river, but if I make it to the river, I usually at least have the board beat.
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#6
09-29-2004, 08:58 PM
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Re: 73 soooted flops a flush draw
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Topspin, do you know your VP%IP? I would never play 73s unless I was a blind. Even had I done so, I wouldn't have bet the turn (can anyone tell me if I am wrong about that?). You are, in essence, charging yourself for the flush draw. Then I certianly would not have called the raise. Unless the pot is gigantic, you almost never have pot odds for two bets on a flush. You flush isn't likely and you are losing to anyone with a bigger card than you. Not to mention a double paired board just reaks of a boat. The river fold is probably OK, anyone with a 9 or better in thier hand is beating you. I hate to fold for one bet on the river, but if I make it to the river, I usually at least have the board beat. [/ QUOTE ] He posted in the CO. Preflop is fine, but you really should fold to the raise on the turn. Rob
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#9
09-29-2004, 09:34 PM
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Re: 73 soooted flops a flush draw
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[ QUOTE ] It appears that he was posting a blind to start playing at the table. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I hope that isn't supposed to be a comment about posting in the CO. It's pretty widely accepted here that posting in the CO is +EV, as long as you're a +EV player. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Rob
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