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SB at a loose table
Table is around 42% VPIP. MP1 and MP2 are 78 VPIP and 52 VPIP
Villian is 15% VPIP 3%PFR 4% AGR after 115 hands Ultimate Bet 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls. Turn: (4.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero ?? Is this just a simple bet fold? |
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Re: SB at a loose table
I think it is more of a call down. You hate dealing with a checking BB when paired rags flop. It's a small pot, but your hand is improving.
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Re: SB at a loose table
Where's the third player on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Anyway, he's equally likkely to have a Q or a 3 at this point, and given that he could have Q3* I don't think you can bet for value. Call down U/I. * No, I'm not scared that he has specifically Q3; I mean we lose if he has any 3 and win/split if he has any Q except Q3. Thus there's a slightly less than half chance that we're ahead, but damned if I'm not going to showdown. This is assuming he's not stupid enough to raise a flush draw and blow away the field. Finally, this footnote is three times longer than the actual post. Burma shave. ** oh wait, I guess he won't have AQ/KQ/QQ. I suppose that means you're more likely to be ahead than not, but I want to call down anyway because I'm a weak tightie [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] |
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Re: SB at a loose table
I'm not ready to give villian credit for a 3. I think you might have to 3-bet this flop unless you're positive villian has a three in which case you should have dumped it on the flop.
Given the way you played it, check-raise the turn. Sorry, for some reason I thought you had QJ. Bet/call seems good since our 6 isn't a very nice kicker. I'd still check-raise the turn though. |
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Re: SB at a loose table
gruncheroo
it's funny, you don't have a read on BB, but everyone else? Anyhow, I don't see standard villain's raising trips on the flop. They generally wait until the turn. That said, we could have a weaker Q on the flop, so a call and re-eval on the turn is OK. I think this turn proably improved our hand, we should bet, and call if raised and check/call the river. Another option is to checkraise (Screwball!!), and if we got 3-bet, we may have to check/fold the river (which sucks). We want a showdown, so I go for turn bet/call and river check/call in the face of more action. edit: speling. stoopit keyboard |
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Re: SB at a loose table
[ QUOTE ]
gruncheroo it's funny, you don't have a read on BB, but everyone else? Anyhow, I don't see standard villain's raising trips on the flop. They generally wait until the turn. That said, we could have a weaker Q on the flop, so a call and re-eval on the turn is OK. I think this turn proably improved our hand, we should bet, and call if raised and check/call the river. Another option is to checkraise (Screwball!!), and if we got 3-bet, we may have to check/fold the river (which sucks). We want a showdown, so I go for turn bet/call and river check/call in the face of more action. edit: speling. stoopit keyboard [/ QUOTE ] BB = Villian is 15% VPIP 3%PFR 4% AGR after 115 hands [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Re: SB at a loose table
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4% AGR [/ QUOTE ] This is not a percentage. |
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Re: SB at a loose table
Oh huh! Yeah like the 4 is big aggro, which is quite aggro (4 bets/raises for every call). I think this doesn't change the Q vs 3 possibility. I guess he could have AQ,KK,QQ with such low pfr standards.
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#9
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Re: SB at a loose table
I think even this guy is raising KK and QQ out of the BB.
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#10
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Re: SB at a loose table
Bet/call, check/call.
IMO. Any line that allows a free card is not good. Although the flush draw is unlikely, given villian's play, you are 50/50 with any of his other holdings. You have 90% equity if he holds a Q, he has 90% if he holds a 3. Both are equally likely (probably slightly favouring a Q). But if he has Ax or Kx [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] he has 11 outs and giving a free card would kill a kitten. If there was no flush draw, this would be a fine example of WA/WB. |
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