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Small buy-in specialists needed
So...my online fund is broke and now I am exclusively playing the $5s on Stars.
I have a basic philosophy question here: I play a lot of hands different early in tourneys than I think is 'proper play.' My logic is the 'donkey factor.' Basically...I figure an approximate % in my head that unknown player holds a donkey holding vs. the holding he is REALLY representing with all the betting action going on. Sometimes I look like a genius with awesome reading capabilities...Sometimes I look like the donkey... I know this raises my variance some...but as a general philosophy - what do you guys think of this? Some classic examples would be going to bat with mediocre over-pairs unimproved after a couple raises or going to bat with TPTK or the low end of a four card straight...etc... I, of course, am very capable of laying good, made hands down...so that is not the issue here. I just see so much donking it up that I am trying to adjust for the times that donks make donk plays/bets. How much do you guys adjust? Have I gone too far? |
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
don't like it at all... calling a raise with A6 in EP is -EV plain and simple.
keep playing tight early and the donks will make mistakes and eliminate themselves |
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
I play a lot of hands different early in tourneys than I think is 'proper play.' My logic is the 'donkey factor.'
Basically...I figure an approximate % in my head that unknown player holds a donkey holding vs. the holding he is REALLY representing with all the betting action going on. These statements lead me to believe you are a donkey |
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
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I play a lot of hands different early in tourneys than I think is 'proper play.' My logic is the 'donkey factor.' Basically...I figure an approximate % in my head that unknown player holds a donkey holding vs. the holding he is REALLY representing with all the betting action going on. These statements lead me to believe you are a donkey [/ QUOTE ]You mean this didn't convince you: "So...my online fund is broke and now I am exclusively playing the $5s on Stars." |
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These statements lead me to believe you are a donkey [/ QUOTE ] most absolutely you don't have to call every potential bluff (based on your % in your head). just play SMART poker. |
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
Don't lose sight of the objective of a SNG: to be the last person at the table with chips. You don't have to pick off every bluff or maximize chips won on every hand to win a SNG.
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
The key to beating the $5 on stars is playing on your girlfriends account.
Bones, who is borrowing Yugo's signature because it's likely he'll be the only one who gets this joke. |
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
its worth noting my account is broke for other reasons than than the questions put forth in this topic.
I ran into a horrible variance down-swing accompanied by some frustration/tilt over not understanding downswings or bankroll management. Flopped sets vs. rivered higher sets. Flopped straights vs. runner runner full houses...etc... Since I was playing too high - I lost a good % of my bankroll in half a dozen specific hands of outdraws...Thats when I really strated combing 2+2 and discovered - GASP - bankroll management. It turns my problem was mainly that I was playing too high. So - now I play the $5s until I can build back up. Gotta play somewhere. |
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
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Basically...I figure an approximate % in my head that unknown player holds a donkey holding vs. the holding he is REALLY representing with all the betting action going on. [/ QUOTE ] In general, donks are not trying to represent hands or doing any other such advanced level thinking. It's much easier to just not worry about getting bluffed off mediocre holdings once in a while. At the small buy-ins the typical donk will pay off your legimate monster hands anyway, even if you've been a rock to that point. [ QUOTE ] I, of course, am very capable of laying good, made hands down...so that is not the issue here. I just see so much donking it up that I am trying to adjust for the times that donks make donk plays/bets. [/ QUOTE ] Rather than trying to catch donk plays with your mediocre holdings, I think you would be better off with a strategy of almost never laying down strong holdings unless you have a very good read on your opponent. Disclaimer - I'm not a specialist (at any buy-in). |
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Re: Small buy-in specialists needed
Just to be clear - I don't play totally dumb. (calling A6 oop as suggested..) But the question is how much do you adjust down? For instance...I usually fold AJ/A10 to raises - but call here 50% or more at the 5s. I'll usually fold TPTK or unimproved over pairs after a couple raises, but might go to the floor with it at the 5s.
============ Rather than trying to catch donk plays with your mediocre holdings, I think you would be better off with a strategy of almost never laying down strong holdings unless you have a very good read on your opponent. ===================== Right - that makes a lot of sense...but I guess maybe my question SHOULD HAVE been - do you change your definition of 'strong holding' when playing a possible donk? (Early w/no reads yet.) is TP good enough? TPTK? bottom two? etc... |
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