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Multiway Pot With KK
UTG+2 is a bit LAG at 23.0/11.76/2.34 after 2,372 hands.
MP3 is a LAG postflop but somewhat passive pre-flop at 25.9/7.05/1.80 after 397 hands. BB is LAG pre-flop but relatively passive post-flop at 46.0/11.50/0.63 after 113 hands. Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls. Turn: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls. River: (13.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero ??? Final Pot: 19.75 BB. Nothing much to see pre-flop and on the flop. BB donks the turn after cold-calling pre-flop and check-calling the flop. BB looks to have turned two-pair or caught and inside straight draw with QT. But then, after I raise BB slows down and just calls. Meanwhile, MP3 is on a flush-draw. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] The river seems perfect, but BB once again worked up the courage to be aggressive. Certainly the king helped me more than it helped him. How close is your decision here? I didn't think twice before throwing in a raise, but what your plans when BB makes it 3-bets? Meanwhile, MP3 missed his flush-draw. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] |
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
I raise the river. He three-bets, and I call. Pot is too large to fold. He could be on a flopped 2-pair.
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
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UTG+2 is a bit LAG at 23.0/11.76/2.34 after 2,372 hands. MP3 is a LAG postflop but somewhat passive pre-flop at 25.9/7.05/1.80 after 397 hands. BB is LAG pre-flop but relatively passive post-flop at 46.0/11.50/0.63 after 113 hands. Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls. Turn: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP3 calls. River: (13.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero ??? Final Pot: 19.75 BB. Nothing much to see pre-flop and on the flop. BB donks the turn after cold-calling pre-flop and check-calling the flop. BB looks to have turned two-pair or caught and inside straight draw with QT. But then, after I raise BB slows down and just calls. Meanwhile, MP3 is on a flush-draw. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] The river seems perfect, but BB once again worked up the courage to be aggressive. Certainly the king helped me more than it helped him. How close is your decision here? I didn't think twice before throwing in a raise, but what your plans when BB makes it 3-bets? Meanwhile, MP3 missed his flush-draw. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Grunch. If your read of BB is passive, I don't think he would bet the turn with an OESD. I think you're more likely up against a scared two-pair or set, who wants to put some money in the pot but "not too much". I cap this river I think. You're more likely ahead of another set, two-pair, and stealthy AAs than QT I think. |
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
I raise as well and expect to see some kind of 2 pair.
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
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BB looks to have turned two-pair or caught and inside straight draw with QT. ... Certainly the king (on the river)helped me more than it helped him. [/ QUOTE ] Well, only if you threw your turn read out the window. This looks every bit like Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (46 VPIP BB might've called preflop). You apparently thought so, too, since you folded to his 3-bet (don't include the final pot, and don't cut off the HH at your action and then tell us what happened!). |
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
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I raise the river. He three-bets, and I call. Pot is too large to fold. He could be on a flopped 2-pair. [/ QUOTE ] I think I'm capping this river. A made straight would have made a move sooner, or would have gone for a c/r, and that's all we're worried about. |
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
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[ QUOTE ] I raise the river. He three-bets, and I call. Pot is too large to fold. He could be on a flopped 2-pair. [/ QUOTE ] I think I'm capping this river. A made straight would have made a move sooner, or would have gone for a c/r, and that's all we're worried about. [/ QUOTE ] Uh, unless he rivered his straight and is too stupid to think of going for a c/r (or afraid that Hero's QQ would be scared off by the K). |
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
Whoops, probably best not to post while still multi-tabling. The comment about the straight draw with QT was meant for the river card. On the turn, I actually intended to say that the Jack does not complete any straight draws. Anyway, the results are in!
(You miscounted the bets bozlax [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) River: (13.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 19.75 BB. Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF"> BB has Qh Ts (a straight, nine to king.) Hero has Kh Kd (three of a kind, kings.) BB wins 19.25 BB.</font> Not sure what to make of this except for a small note under BB's name. The donk and the 3-bet on the river from such a passive player threw me for a loop so I only called down. BB's play doesn't really make much sense unless he misread his cards and thought he had a straight on the turn, then stopped to double-check after my 3-bet. |
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
I think the river is a pretty easy raise. I'm sure capping the river could not be that bad.
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Re: Multiway Pot With KK
Heh, I wasn't even looking at the QT straight as a possibility. This guy is a champ. Make a note and move on.
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