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Brilliant or FPS?
Villain is one of those crazy LAGtastic swedes. Last orbit, I openraised from the SB, he called, I check/raised a TT5r flop (he took a long time to call that), the 7 turn was checked through and I check/folded an ace on the river. He's a regular in the game and probably sees me as a bit tight but occasionally wildly aggressive with nothing. He definitely prefers betting and raising to calling on all streets.
Party Poker (skins) No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter MP ($413.85) Button ($156.05) Hero ($200) BB ($403) UTG ($0) Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $6</font>, BB calls $4. Flop: ($12) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10. Turn: ($32) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks. River: ($32) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $50</font>, BB calls $40. Final Pot: $132 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> Hero has Jd Js (full house, jacks full of fives). BB has Ks Th (two pair, tens and fives). UTG doesn't show. Outcome: Hero wins $132. </font> |
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
I think you can get more money in faster by not playing it like this.
-T |
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
Given that he had a ten, sure, but his flop call in no way indicates that is the case.
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
I like $25 on the turn.
I burned a ton on money the other day when I checked a turn with similar action. |
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
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Given that he had a ten, sure, but his flop call in no way indicates that is the case. [/ QUOTE ] I hadn't read the results. Regardless, what hand is calling on a dry flop like that, but folding to a bet because of a J on the turn. If anything, TJ is the most likely hand he could have (obviously not as much since you have JJ - I'm aware), but I don't think this card will scare him out of a call. If it does, then how do you figure your CR on the river would have gotten more out of him? -T |
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
i like it. given his perception of you and prior history his flop calling range includes MANY relatively weak holdings and if u are not regularly loading it up on all three streets then your line is fine, especially if he is a winning player in the game. against a LAG donk no FPS, just shovel money in the pot.
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
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I like $25 on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
The checkraise doesn't necessarily get any more out of him but it does give him a chance to bluff. With a weaker hand, I would certainly check/call but this holding is strong enough that I might even get a call from a worse hand if I check/raise.
As for hands that call flop, check turn, and bet river, I'd say a whole lot of pocket pairs fit that description. However, I don't think a small pair calls both the flop and turn if I fire again. |
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
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this holding is strong enough that I might even get a call from a worse hand if I check/raise. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get this. Please explain. And I can accept that some PP's will drop to a turn bet, but I think that would be more likely if the turn is an A or K. I guess I just don't like the river CR. Why not lead the river? I think you will get a call from the same hands that would make the bluff, but you might get more out of them, since I think most players fold to the river CR. I think raise PF, bet flop, check turn, bet river looks more like AK. -T |
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Re: Brilliant or FPS?
I'm not sure what FPS means, but I like your line. However, I prefer leading the turn as if you c/c lead the river, that would show too much strength. If you c/r the turn, that also screams strength.
I like leading the turn and betting half the pot on the river hoping that Villian will make a play on me. |
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