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AQ: Domination with Redraws
I feel I should be more certain of these AQ spots, perhaps I am running bad.
TABLE: Fairly loose around the 30% seeing flop mark. Button here is reasonably solid post-flop, PF he is V$IP30/PFR10 over 50 hands. Not much to go on but so far he is NOT raising loosely (i.e. not a LAG), only calling loosely. $5/$10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Naphand is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Naphand raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Naphand calls. Flop: (7.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Naphand checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Naphand [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] My default strategy is to dump AQo UI post-flop to a 3-bet against most reasonably tight/correct 3-bettors. Here I could very well be horribly dominated BUT the board has likely not improved villains hand and offers me a lot of potential improvement on the Turn: I have backdoor flush, straight and probably live outs to the Q (barring AA/KK). Ace outs obviously tainted by AKo. I am staring at the board - looks like a good spot to peel one. Anyone disagree? |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
I'm inclined to fold unless you can say this guy is aware enough to three bet an MP open raiser with 77/KJs/KQ. The 10% PFR doesn't really tell me that one way or another.
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
I'm getting 8.4 to 1 (with probably more reverse-implied odds than implied odds). You are about 6.4 to 1 to get a pair on the turn.
I'd call here and check-raise a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on the turn. I'd donk-bet an A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and check/call a Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. If the flop had a king (and you had only one overcard), you might fold this flop. |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
I think calling is fine here.
We're folding the turn unless a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A,Q, or J hits right? |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
folding is fine. your outs are almost certainly tainted.
a peel wouldn't be awful, but you still can't put a raise in. if you feel villain will 3bet you lite, sure |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
My plan was to call and CR a Turn Q or J, just calling a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
The problem with CR the flush card is that it is just too obvious and I am still behind to most of his hands. Getting 3-bet OOP would really suck, and there is a good chance he will do that with the flush card - he is not putting me on a T or 9 (if he holds overs) and is aggressive enough to know that move. |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
I think his 3-betting range may be wider than you think. He could be 3betting 77+, ATs+ AQo+
If he doesn't have a heart, he could even fold AK when a heart hits the turn. |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
Peel!
You are right that usually it's best to dump AQ unimproved to a pre-flop three-bettor on the the flop, but here you've got a bunch going. You should also consider that a fair amount of the time villain might check behind the turn and give you a free shot to improve. The Nate Tha Great post that Hobbsman recently bumped was very useful in clarifying my thoughts on this situation. OOP, peeling in heads-up pots on the flop should probably be done quite liberally, because villain might check the turn (which will almost invariably increase our equity), and so forth. I think I'm going to go back and bump that thread. |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
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villain might check the turn [/ QUOTE ] It helps to have more than a "might" but I agree. |
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Re: AQ: Domination with Redraws
Good old Nate - fondly remembered as the resident LAG in the HUSH forum.
I would appreciate seeing that post, if it does not appear here (posted in mid-limit?) perhaps you can let me know the subject and I can look it up myself. |
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