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Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
Against an EP raise against an unknown, what's the lowest PP you play in the BB?
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
66 I guess... but I think I should probably take it up to 88 as I'm not crazy about trying to take the pot away from the ep raiser without making a set or a straight draw.
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
I complete with any PP. If you don't hit your set the board and player determine my actions which will be folding on the flop about 70% of the time.
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
I wonder about this too.
When I've got 33 in the BB, for instance, and there's an EP raise, part of the reason I'm hoping for at least one cold-caller is that a cold-caller will make my decision easy. Maybe it should be easy anyway. I'm not sure. |
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
is this full ring? standard raising range(AK-J, KQ, AA-88)?
i do 66. more of the deck will hit you for your straight draw as well as both set outs are good. and if the board comes 789T - unless villain has AJ/JJ, your bottom straight card is goot. lower than that, and your set outs are vulnerable to a straight draw if villain has an Ace. but i hate completing simply for set value, so for right now 66 gives me the most opportunity to win back my money and/or suckout. |
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
Your post made me think of this thread from March. It's funny looking back on it because back then there was sooo much that I really didn't understand. I was an ass but, this is a great thread. It's also funny because today I'd be playing every time - 3-betting against some opponents, calling against some and leading many flops. Thanks Errant, sfer!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
Why are you defending your BB with a crappy pair anyways vs an EP raiser?
You get a 11.8% chance to hit a set. What are you going to do when the flop comes QT8, 2 flush no set? He might just be holding AK? Best case is he has big pair and you hit a set. You make big money Assume poor players (AK = AK-AJ, KQ, AA = pairs AA=TT) AK vs 55, paired vs set: 3.8% win 11 SB (cap flop, opponent calls down) PF Raiser vs 55, Doesnt matter vs no set: 88.2% lose 1 SB (you said you would fold, usually they bet flop and turn) AA vs 55, set vs set: 1.4% lose 15 (assume its capped on flop and turn, called on river) Preflop raiser vs 55, Suckout vs set: 5% lose 9 SB (1.9% to 7% depending on flop for rasier) AK vs 55, no pair/draw vs set: 7.8% win 5 (check, opponent bets, you raise, he calls, you lead turn, he folds) 30 possibilities vs a big pair 27.3% 80 possibilities vs 2 high cards 72.7% ANY 3.8% x 100.0% +11 = +.418 ANY 82.0% x 100.0% -1 = -.82 AA 1.4% x 27.3% -15 = -.057 ANY 5.0% x 100.0% -9 = -.450 AK 7.8% x 72.7% +5 = +.283 total -0.626 BB per 100 hands ------------------ I took about 45 mins to figure this out. If you saw the opponents hand then it would be positive but no set no bet then your a loser. Since you are folding everytime you miss no matter what they have. |
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I will call a raise with any pocket pair and continue if the flop is favorable
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
[ QUOTE ]
66 I guess... but I think I should probably take it up to 88 as I'm not crazy about trying to take the pot away from the ep raiser without making a set or a straight draw. [/ QUOTE ] How is 66 really any different from 22 here. HU, 88 unimproved can be a fine hand. If the pot's multiway then you can start thinking about set value, but for the rest, just get better at player postflop. |
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Re: Defending BB with low pocket pair simple question
Another good question is how often do you 3-bet with a small PP against a 20/10/2.
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