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Dumb thing I did was to post this in the wrong forum - General and bernie was nice enough not to pick on me. So, I'm posting here again:
My typical Saturday 5-10 at Taj. Table was loose/passive with 2 or 3 decent players. I have not won a hand since my first hand when I posted in CO, got raised by SB after 1 limper, and won by check-raising the PF raiser who called all the way when I flopped top two with KTs. On this hand, loose MP raised after 2 limpers and I decided to cold-call with QTh in CO. Clear fold or marginal call? Button and BB folded, SB re-raised, 2 limpers cold-called first raiser capped. Sh****T! I got trapped but decided to see the flop, still thinking whether it's the right thing to do. Everybody called. Flop was 7 5 T rainbow with 1 heart. Now, I had top pair and a backdoor flush draw. SB bets out, folded to capper who just called. What to do? What to do? My first instinct was to fold but thought about the players involved: SB is a decent regular but have passive tendencies having just called all the way with his PF raise with AA in my initial winning hand and I thought: Is this deja vu all over again except I know I am beat this time and the pot was quite enticing but with a 3rd player. MP capper whom I've never played before is quite aggressive PF but passive post-flop. I thought this is a fold or raise situation and I raised! Both called. Whaddya think? Turn was a blank. Both checked! Ah, my free card, and I checked. River was my miracle T!! SB led out, MP called and I raised. Both called. My hand was good. SB showed his AA and MP threw his QQ face up mumbling about my flop raise. Please comment on all streets as I'm still unsure of my cold-calling standards especially in a capped pot. [img]/forums/images/icons/confused.gif[/img] |
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Repost of my answer on General board:
Preflop: I think coldcalling here is pretty bad, but not horrible. You'll have position with big suited cards in a multiway pot. I would still fold, though. Flop: Why is this a raise or fold situation? I think calling is the best play unless BB AND MP are super passive, and won't three-bet the flop even with an overpair. You likely have 6 outs, which is plenty to call a bet with, so folding is out of the question. If you raise you will likely be reraised (unless they are super passive), and will end up putting in 2 extra bets to see the turn. So, it seems that calling is the best play. If you don't catch anything on the turn you can fold to a bet. Turn: Given that you raised the flop, you should of course take your free card on the turn when checked to. River: Routine Comments: I don't know what SB and MP are bitching about. They played the hand like crap. SB should have three-bet the flop and led out on the turn. MP should have raised the flop. If either of these things happen you are probably gone before the river. -- Homer |
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I think calling on the flop is out of the question, 'cause SB would have bet out and called by MP on the turn which would obviously be a fold for me.
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There's nothing wrong with taking one off on the turn with proper odds and folding to a bet if you don't catch anything. It is much more preferable than raising the flop and having to call a three-bet, imho.
-- Homer |
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Maybe I'm dumb but I don't get it. You had 3 Tens. The other guy had 3 aces. Explain this to me please.
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where's the ace on the board. i think you misread the 'Ah' as an ace of hearts instead of the expression
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Please explain how 3 tens beats aces full.
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doesn't trip tens always beat aces full?
i think you guys are mistaking his... "Ah" for an Ace of hearts. i think he's just say...AHHHH. |
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Thanks Oddjob. That's how dumb I am. Can't even type Ahhhh correctly. [img]/forums/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
Ditto to Homer. |
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It doesn't. Read the post again.
-- Homer |
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