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K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
So, I've only seen SB for a couple of orbits, but seems to be a typical fishy.
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks. This is a borderline call for me in this position, and I thought about it for a minute, then looked at the table stats, realized that nobody was PFR'ing, and the VPIP for the table was around 60, and called. Flop: (8 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls. I should've checked this. I know. I'm sorry. Turn: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls. Straight on the board, but I've got the odds to call for the flush draw. But is SB pumping her own flush draw? River: (16 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls. Final Pot: 20 BB Weak-tight call, right? As I look back over it, I realize I should've seen that Villan caught the gutshot on the turn and gone to war. But, I was so happy to make my flush, I reacted without thinking. I hereby resolve to count to 3 before making any moves other than folding PF.... |
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
Why aren't you 3betting the river again? It should be instintive...
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
Call preflop is good at this table.
There are still 3 players to act behind you on that flop, and while a bet looks tempting, the field is massive and there's only a really small chance we're ahead. Turn fine. Easy river 3-bet with the 2nd nuts. |
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
I think the flop bet is fine. It protects your hand.
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
The only street I really like is the turn.
Preflop is close. I tend to fold K8s- in EP. K9s is ok, KTs is a limp. Position is really important with this sort of hand. Flop is a pretty clear check. Call one back to you. Turn is SOP. River is an easy 3-bet. Rob |
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
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There are still 3 players to act behind you on that flop, and while a bet looks tempting, the field is massive and there's only a really small chance we're ahead. [/ QUOTE ] There is definitely value in calling a bet here, I see no reason why you wouldn't just bet it yourself. I don't think getting raised here would be the end of the world, as you still have about 6 clean outs. Edit: my opinion has partially shifted as I misread the fact that you have bottom rather than middle pair. |
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
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I think the flop bet is fine. It protects your hand. [/ QUOTE ] On this board, with this many limpers, not only does it not protect your hand (offering the field 9:1 here is not hand protection), but normally your hand isn't one that you are interested in offering protection on, since you're drawing. Paying 2 bets with a very weak hand on this board is not fun. Rob |
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
It seems like limping with K7 suited early comes up a lot on the boards! I don't agree with the limp, but I can't disagree with your rationale, either. At least you sought out the information and made a decision based on it. In my opinion, this kind of diligence will be much more valuable than any semi-loose calls early will cost you.
I think you have to cap the river here. You've got the second best hand against one opponent. Do you really think you'll lose more than 50% of the time? |
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
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that you are interested in offering protection on, since you're drawing [/ QUOTE ] I hadn't been considering strongly enough the fact that you are probably behind, which I agree with. My preotection statement is invalid, check the fucker. |
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Re: K7s, and I\'m a baaaaad boy
I have seen a lot of hands recently where people bet marginal hands on the flop. Don't do this in family pots. Save these flop bets for times when you only have 2 opponents or when 3 opponents check to you. The bet does absolutely nothing for you in this spot except make it more expensive for you to draw.
Brad |
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