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Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
This was hand number 12 or so, and villain had been limping most of them. I had played him once earlier postflop, so I had a slight feeling what kind of player he was.
My question is, is it worth trying moves like this at all? And if it is, is this a good spot? It should be added that the blinds were fairly tight, so I expected to get headsup unless there was a premium hand in the blinds. NL Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny: Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Monday, April 11, EDT 2005 Table Table 11469 (Real Money) Seat 1 is the button Total number of players : 8 Seat 1: Hero ( $1080 ) Seat 3: ( $1275 ) Seat 4: ( $960 ) Seat 5: ( $1155 ) Seat 6: ( $2395 ) Seat 7: MrFISHY ( $715 ) Seat 8: ( $975 ) Seat 9: ( $1445 ) Trny:11209559 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Hero [ Ah 8h ] folds. folds. MrFISHY calls [30]. folds. folds. Hero raises [100]. folds. folds. MrFISHY calls [70]. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 8s, Qh ] MrFISHY checks. Hero bets [225]. >You have options at Table 11578 Table!. MrFISHY is all-In [615] Hero calls [390]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ] ** Dealing River ** [ 7s ] Hero shows [ Ah, 8h ] two pairs, queens and eights. MrFISHY shows [censored] censored wins 1475 chips from the main pot |
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
I think its a stupid move, At this point in the tournament you don't even need to be playing A8s let alone raising with it.
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
Well, the question is if this is potentially good enough to compensate for the risk.
I know this is not standard procedure. When is it a good play nonetheless? |
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
I don't like the raise at all in this stage of the SNG.
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
Answer to your question is it is never a good play at this point in the tournament.
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
For the sake of discussion:
On what grounds? Just cowardice? The way I see it, I'm a definite favorite to have the better hand preflop. On the flop, he would do the same move with a lot of hands imo. I can see three pretty clear +ev decisions, against this kind of player. This is exactly the kind of move you make money with in ring-games (isolating the fish) and I'm thinking that it could be employed more in sngs. Please offer more of a analysis, rather than just no, not good. |
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
[ QUOTE ]
This was hand number 12 or so, and villain had been limping most of them. I had played him once earlier postflop, so I had a slight feeling what kind of player he was. [/ QUOTE ] Well, what kind of player was he? There are many varieties of fish. If he is the type that limps in with a lot, but gives up easily on the flop, then I think your play is OK. On the flop I would bet less, perhaps 150. I would fold to a check-raise all-in unless the player was very over-aggressive (in which case I may have folded pre-flop). Paul |
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
Why in Gods name would you want to lessen the playing field with a suited weak ace? You have no right to deem anyone a fish.
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
He seemed to be the kind of postflop fish that liked to call a bet and then give up to the second barrel. Somewhat tricky. I think he would have folded on a less bluff-nice flop than QQ8 unless he hit.
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Re: Isolating the fish, A8s lvl2 50+5
Looks to me like you're the fish here. Just because your play worked out in this specific situation does not mean its good.
Nothing wrong with going after a LAG player, but wait till you have a real hand to do it next time. [ QUOTE ] My question is, is it worth trying moves like this at all? And if it is, is this a good spot? [/ QUOTE ] With A8? No. In this spot? Absolutely not. If he's still around and limping on lvl 5, an isolation play like this becomes more reasonable... |
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