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Old 03-22-2004, 10:26 AM
Tosh Tosh is offline
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Default Raising UTG and folding before the flop

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, MP1 caps, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero folds.
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:30 AM
bunky9590 bunky9590 is offline
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

Nice play. Mike Gallo did the same thing in a Borgata 6-12 game with the same hand.

The situation comes up rarely, but it does come up.

Nice discipline.
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:31 AM
Rico Suave Rico Suave is offline
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

Hey Tosh:

Easy fold for me. Unless of course UTG+1 and MP1 are absolute maniacs.

--Rico
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

You don't mention your impressions of UTG+1 or MP1.

If you respect both (or either one's) play, it's most likely the correct play.
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Old 03-22-2004, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

That should be routine for you unless you know that they are overaggressive.
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Old 03-22-2004, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

It's probably a good fold and it's the reason why you raise AQo utg.

One of them has a big pair and the other one at the very least had you tied. Fold and move on.
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Old 03-22-2004, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

Anyone fold QQ/JJ in the same spot when it's capped back to them? What if you're on the button with QQ/JJ, raise, and the SB 3-bets and the BB caps.
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Old 03-22-2004, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

You are getting 5:1 in both cases, so no. Folding with it on the button is even worse, because they will 3Bet/Cap with more stuff against you there.
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Old 03-22-2004, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Raising UTG and folding before the flop

AQ is the biggest hand I fold here against typical opponents.

Incidently 3 bettor had AKs and capper had QJs, not quite what I was expecting but gave me a note to make on the capper.
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