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Old 03-25-2004, 10:23 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default 1st annual cheex open

OK.

DrPhysic and I play in a home game that goes about every week or two. The guys want to have a tournament with some mixed games. Tho our weekly home game is dealer's choice, some casino style, some crazy name-your-own stuff, it's been kinda agreed on that for the most part the tournament should be casino style. I have thrown in a couple interludes of cheex* and guts, just for comic relief and to keep things interesting.

So what I want is comments and ideas. The guys will have the final word of course. I'll post a report tho when it's done

There will most likely be seven to ten participants. Payouts 50/30/20 if there's at least nine. probably 70/30 if eight or seven.


1st annual Cheex open

$30+$3 buy-in gets you T2000 chips

$3 goes to the general food/beer fund for everyone

unlimited $5 rebuys for the first three hours, each rebuy gets you T500 but you must be below T2000 to rebuy

$10 add-on at the end of rebuys gets for T1000 more

20 minute rounds

5 card draw $2 ante, $15-$30 limit
7 card stud, $2 ante, $5 bring-in, $15-$30 limit
Omaha high/low split eight-or-better, blinds 10-15, limit 15-30
Limit holdem, blinds 10-20, limit 20-40

-- BEER ROUND --
Cheex! must go around once, $25 ante

5 card draw Jacks-Back** $5 ante, limits 30-60
7 card stud high/low split eight-or-better $5 ante $10 bring in, limits 30-60
Limit holdem, blinds 20-40, limit 40-80
7 card stud, ante $10, bring-in $10, limit 40-80

-- BEER ROUND --
Guts! $25 ante! Five card nothing wild

No limit hold'em championship - 20 minute rounds

ante $10 blinds 25-50
ante $15 blinds 50-100
ante $20 blinds 75-150
ante $25 blinds 100-200
ante $25 blinds 150-300
ante $50 blinds 200-400
ante $50 blinds 300-600
ante $75 blinds 400-800
ante $100 blinds 500-1000

*cheex is between the cheex, or inbetween. each player gets two cards face up, they bet anything they want, up to the pot (or what they can cover if they lose) on whether the next card will be inbetween the two dealt to them. Ace is always high, and you can split pairs ala blackjack. The big difference is that all ties pay double. Side bets are also allowed, again, double on a tie.

** jacks-back is jacks to open, but if no one opens it reverts to lowball A-5, with the person to the left of the dealer automatically placing a $30 blind as an opening bet (and it's a LIVE blind). The blind CAN steal the pot if no one calls it. tho these are not the exact casino rules, they will work for our purposes.
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Old 03-26-2004, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: 1st annual cheex open

** jacks-back is jacks to open, but if no one opens it reverts to lowball A-5, with the person to the left of the dealer automatically placing a $30 blind as an opening bet (and it's a LIVE blind). The blind CAN steal the pot if no one calls it. tho these are not the exact casino rules, they will work for our purposes.

I don't understand how you can play Jacks Back with a blind. Do you mean you have to have Jacks to call? And how can it go to low if there is a blind? If it was folded to the blind would he have to have Jacks to get the pot? Else it goes to low?

IMHO, I'd play with nice big antes, and no blind. Also, and this is just my opinion, I think Guts To Open/Back is a much more interesting game. This way you can get flush/straight draws (with lousey low draws) making moves. The antes should be high enough to make it interesting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] .
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Old 03-26-2004, 09:27 AM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: 1st annual cheex open

There is no blind for the jacks to open, just antes. the blind automatically gets posted only after everyone passes, and counts as a bet, and can therefore steal the pot. if it was guts to open virtually every pot would be opened, thus jacks for jacks-back.

The first round of draw, at the beginning of the tournament, is guts to open tho.

al
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Old 03-26-2004, 12:45 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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OK. Well it's been discussed amoungst the guys a little. Some thing cheex and guts is just silly for a tournament. Some want dealer's choice mixed games for three hours, then no limit till the end. So this is edit #1.


1st annual Cheex open

$50+$5 buy-in gets you T2000 chips

$5 goes to the general food/beer fund for everyone. This way no one will have to spend anything extra, we can order pizza, get tacos, buy beer, etc. Anything not spent goes to the bubble boy as the consolation prize.

One $30 rebuy during the first two hours for T2000 more, but you must be below T2000 to rebuy

$30 add-on at the end of rebuys gets for T2000 more. If you are bust for both your buy-in and rebuy before the add-on, you can take it then.

button (for game choice) gets you one round of the game of your choice. You start as the dealer and end as the SB (or whatever is appropriate), then the game choice button moves left.

First hour, choice of games:

5 card draw $5 ante, $20-$40 limit
7 card stud, $5 ante, $5 bring-in, $15-$30 limit
Omaha high/low split eight-or-better, blinds 10-15, limit 15-30
Limit holdem, blinds $10-$15, limit $15-$30
5 card draw Jacks-Back** $5 ante, limits $20-$40
7 card stud high/low split eight-or-better $5 ante $5 bring in, limits $15-$30

Second hour, choice of games:

5 card draw $5 ante, $30-$60 limit
7 card stud, $5 ante, $5 bring-in, $20-$40 limit
Omaha high/low split eight-or-better, blinds $10-$20, limit $20-$40
Limit holdem, blinds $10-$20, limit $20-$40
5 card draw Jacks-Back** $5 ante, limits $30-$60
7 card stud high/low split eight-or-better $5 ante $5 bring in, limits $20-$40


third hour, choice of games:

5 card draw $10 ante, $40-$80 limit
7 card stud, $10 ante, $10 bring-in, $30-$60 limit
Omaha high/low split eight-or-better, blinds $15-$30, limit $30-$60
Limit holdem, blinds $15-$30, limit $30-$60
5 card draw Jacks-Back** $10 ante, limits $40-$80
7 card stud high/low split eight-or-better $10 ante $10 bring in, limits $30-$60


No limit hold'em championship - 20 minute rounds

ante $10 blinds 25-50
ante $15 blinds 50-100
ante $20 blinds 75-150
ante $25 blinds 100-200
ante $25 blinds 150-300
ante $50 blinds 200-400
ante $50 blinds 300-600
ante $75 blinds 400-800
ante $100 blinds 500-1000

** jacks-back is jacks to open, but if no one opens it reverts to lowball A-5, with the person to the left of the dealer automatically placing a $30 blind as an opening bet (and it's a LIVE blind). The blind CAN steal the pot if no one calls it. tho these are not the exact casino rules, they will work for our purposes.

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Old 03-26-2004, 02:22 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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"$30 add-on at the end of rebuys gets for T2000 more. If you are bust for both your buy-in and rebuy before the add-on, you can take it then. "

If you bust out at ANY time, you can get the add-on to buy back into the tournament? I am confused by this.

"button (for game choice) gets you one round of the game of your choice. You start as the dealer and end as the SB (or whatever is appropriate), then the game choice button moves left."
Doesn't this cause you to skip a button hand?
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:26 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: 1st annual cheex open

"unlimited $5 rebuys for the first three hours, each rebuy gets you T500 but you must be below T2000 to rebuy

$10 add-on at the end of rebuys gets for T1000 more"


Al, I know you changed this already. What was your thinking on having partial stacks for the buy-in/add on? Why the switch back to full stack for rebuy/add on?

Thanks,
LL
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Old 03-26-2004, 04:58 PM
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IF 9 PLAYERS, AND I HAVE THE BUTTON, I PICK LIMIT HE. SAME GAME FOR FULL ROUND (9 HANDS), THEN THE BUTTON MOVES TO MY LEFT AND HE PICKS THE GAME FOR THE NEXT ROUND.

WORKABLE IDEA.

GOD, HOW DID I GET INTO THIS????????????????????

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Old 03-28-2004, 03:16 AM
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I've played in a few Low limit home games and we usually start with a $10 NL SnG tourny with fast moving blinds to get it completed within an hour. Followed up by a 1-3 Spread limit HE game with Omaha 8/b and Stud thrown in.

One thing that we noticed is that stud, in particular Hi/Lo is a slow, slow game. I think 1 9 hand rotation of H/L Stud will take a good chunk of your time.

Over all it sounds interesting and maybe we can convince our home game crew to mix it up with a similar tourney with a HOSE feel to it.

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Old 03-28-2004, 09:23 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: 1st annual cheex open

the answer to your questions - it was a brainstorm, that's all. I thought perhaps the guys would like the small rebuy for a few more chips, and that it might encourage everyone to keep rebuying every time they went below 2000. Twas an idea, perhaps good, perhaps not.

al
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Old 03-28-2004, 09:54 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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essentially it's a three buy-in limit. It's just an idea, we still have not decided for sure, even tho we played friday.

no, you play every position when you choose a game, starting with dealer, ending with small blind, or if you choose stud or something you play a # of hands equal to the # of players at the table.

al
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