Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-28-2003, 10:53 AM
Men the Master Men the Master is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Zyzzx, California
Posts: 69
Default Hand to Ponder #233

The usual game and the usual players at our private game at Uncle Thuong's noodle restaurant here in beautiful Zzyzx, California.

Limit Holdem 40-80, nine handed. Bong, the Filipino pizza delivery boy, called from UTG. Uncle Thuong called from early position. Antonio, the dishwasher (happy after getting a 50 cents per hour raise for one year of loyal service to Uncle Thuong), called from middle position. Cousin Scotty called from late position. Aunt Xing Zing, playing in our private game for the very first time, called from the cutoff.

I looked down and saw AK offsuit. My first instinct was to raise out of habit but then a deep voice inside my head said, "Hold it, Men! Now is the time to vary your play. Just call. Besides, you can't really drive anyone out at this point in order to protect your hand. The two binds (Cousin Meng and his girlfriend Spring) are loose-passive callers and the players that are already in are committed to see the flop."

So I followed my inner voice and just called, hoping to flop a flop that would help my diguised hand. I was going to play the deception game.

As expected, Spring called from the small blind and Cousin Meng just checked. A bunch of us were gearing up to see the flop of an unraised near family pot.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-28-2003, 11:01 AM
Men the Master Men the Master is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Zyzzx, California
Posts: 69
Default Result

The flop came Q-7-4 rainbow. Spring, Meng, and Bong all checked. Uncle Thuong bet. Antonio and Scotty folded. Then Aunt Xing Zing raised. I folded as I disappointingly muttered to my self, "Oh well".

I didn't see what happened next because my cell phone rang and I had to answer it. But there's one thing I know. I played the flop creatively.

Till next time. Same Zzyzx time. Same Zzyzx channel.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-28-2003, 11:42 AM
TJSWAN TJSWAN is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 169
Default Re: Result

M-t-M,

I thought you lived in Zyzzx [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Tim
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-28-2003, 11:57 AM
elysium elysium is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,891
Default Re: Hand to Ponder #233

hi men
i like raising in this spot.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-28-2003, 12:08 PM
nykenny nykenny is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,120
Default Re: Hand to Ponder #233

Men,

I like your play. This (even if it were hypothetical) is a very good post. I believe many if not most people tend to make a mistake here by raising, or lead out on flop or both, or check raise flop.

Plus, this hand really represent a whole range of hands that should be played this way when the situation calls for it.

It also reminds me of my own mistakes.

quote of the day:

"Play tighter than the too loose opponents and looser than the too-tight opponents. Against the opponents who play just right, leave the table!"
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-28-2003, 12:44 PM
andyfox andyfox is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,677
Default Re: Hand to Ponder #233

6 callers and you opt for deception? Not I, said the Fox. I have position and the best hand.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-28-2003, 09:40 PM
LondonBroil LondonBroil is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 576
Default Re: Hand to Ponder #233

I was just driving by Zzyzyx a few months ago driving from LA to Vegas with my parents. I'll look for a noodle restaurant next time I'm driving through.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-29-2003, 11:18 AM
Men the Master Men the Master is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Zyzzx, California
Posts: 69
Default Re: Hand to Ponder #233

I've just forwarded your post to Uncle Thuong. He says that the next time you come to Zzyzx please do drop by. You're more than welcome to our private games.

Simply give Jennifer, our cute as a button Taiwanese cashier, your name so that she can go back to the kitchen and notify Uncle Thuong of your presence. This invitation is open to everyone here at 2+2.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.