TPTK and a bunch of people who won't budge...

blackaces13 · #1 11-23-2005, 11:08 PM

Party .5/1.

UTG is a weak player, too loose and not very aggro.
UTG+2 is another loose/passive player with very few chips left.
BB is new to the table (first hand).

PREFLOP: Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP3.
UTG limps, 1 fold, UTG+2 limps, 2 folds, Hero raises , 3 folds, BB calls, Both limpers call.

FLOP: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 8.5 SBs)
3 checks, Hero bets , ALL call.

TURN: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players, 5.75 BBs)
BB checks, UTG bets , UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

RIVER: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players, 9.75 BBs)
BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 goes all in for 1.5 BBs , Hero folds, BB calls.

Redd · #2 11-23-2005, 11:10 PM

Given the reads, I'd fold it but doubt myself later because "he went all-in" and post the hand here.

blackaces13 · #3 11-23-2005, 11:26 PM

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Given the reads, I'd fold it but doubt myself later because "he went all-in" and post the hand here.

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So you like the whole hand then? How about the turn, calling always seems weak in a 4 way pot facing a donk but I couldn't think of/bring myself to do anything other than flat call and hope for the best.

Augster · #4 11-23-2005, 11:33 PM

All I can say is nice hand.

I can't see playing it any differently.

Redd · #5 11-24-2005, 12:00 AM

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Given the reads, I'd fold it but doubt myself later because "he went all-in" and post the hand here.

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So you like the whole hand then? How about the turn, calling always seems weak in a 4 way pot facing a donk but I couldn't think of/bring myself to do anything other than flat call and hope for the best.

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Yeah, I hear you; I always have the same problem in this situation. Interestingly enough, I just tried to get some discussion going on a simliar question in this recent thread.

Like that hand, there's several hands that we don't mind folding behind us that could correctly call for one bet, but getting 3-bet really sucks. I'd say this one is closer because of the caller in the middle likely giving us an equity overlay in case we are drawing dead, but against the weakie's hand range I still don't know if we have the equity to raise.