One more from my virginal 30/60 session

[PokerBob]

Canterbury 30/60 (8 handed)
EP fish limps, I raise in the CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB (same dude from my first post) calls, BB folds, fish calls.

Flop (3 players): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets, fish folds, I raise, SB 3-bets, I call.

Turn (HU): J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets, I call.

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB bets, I call.

[rmarotti]

I have a real tough time putting SB on a hand that contains a 3 here unless it's 33. This is one of those hands where I get confused by the action and call down, but what do i know?

<-- See! I'm a fish.

[worm33]

unless sb is excelent player with 22 or a3s your hand will almost always be good here what are you afraid of? raise the turn. Also, when you flop no pair no draw you dont have to raise to get a free card. A 332 rainbow board is a pretty bad board for a sb to bluff at. This is assuming the sb is a decent regular, i heard there were some loons playing today. villian if decent will almost always have 66-99 here.

[PokerBob]

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unless sb is excelent player with 22 or a3s your hand will almost always be good here what are you afraid of?

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Losing BK's $$$$. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

If I pop the turn, is he callig down with 66-99? Can I safely fold to a 3-bet here? It think his name was Kwan.

[worm33]

well quan is definitly the tightest player that plays the 30-60 game and i would be extremely surprised if he did not have 66 77 or aq

[Clarkmeister]

I like it til the river, where you forgot to raise.

[PokerBob]

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I like it til the river, where you forgot to raise.

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Yeah. I like raisng the river better than the turn. I'm still learning. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[worm33]

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I like it til the river, where you forgot to raise.

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Yeah. I like raisng the river better than the turn. I'm still learning. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I definitly raise the turn, otherwise its hard to raise the turn ever on a semi-bluff if players see u like to wait to raise on the river. I do like that play when it looks like u can get 3 bet semi-bluffed but not here. Quan has no chance of having a 2 or 3 in his hand, hes not 3 betting you on the turn because his range of hands is so easy to figure out. By the way on the previous hand if quan was the pre-flop 3 bettor in previous hand, doing ANYTHING but folding the flop is baaaaaaaaaaad

[PokerBob]

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I like it til the river, where you forgot to raise.

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Yeah. I like raisng the river better than the turn. I'm still learning. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I definitly raise the turn, otherwise its hard to raise the turn ever on a semi-bluff if players see u like to wait to raise on the river. I do like that play when it looks like u can get 3 bet semi-bluffed but not here. Quan has no chance of having a 2 or 3 in his hand, hes not 3 betting you on the turn because his range of hands is so easy to figure out. By the way on the previous hand if quan was the pre-flop 3 bettor in previous hand, doing ANYTHING but folding the flop is baaaaaaaaaaad

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Unfortunately I had no clue who he was at the time....and I play bad.

[Clarkmeister]

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I definitly raise the turn, otherwise its hard to raise the turn ever on a semi-bluff if players see u like to wait to raise on the river.

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There are some times when it's so much better to wait that metagame should take a back seat. This is such a time. Raise the turn when you have a big pair and the turn is a small blank and you know he can't easily fold a near-dead hand.