About Last Night, part two

[adam74]

PLHE at Stars, blinds of 0.50/1.00, full table.

I'm in CO with T [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img].

Stack sizes: SB $45.20; UTG $25.30; I have them both covered.

Pre-flop: Two limpers to me, I limp, SB completes and BB checks.

Flop: K [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img]. Both blinds check and UTG bets $2. I call and so does SB.

Turn: 5 [img]/forums/images/icons/heart.gif[/img]. SB checks and UTG bets the pot of $10.50, leaving him with just $11.80. I call and SB folds.

River: 3 [img]/forums/images/icons/club.gif[/img]. He bets $10 and I call.

Have I won? [img]/forums/images/icons/cool.gif[/img] How do people think I played this hand? Too passive? Too loose? [Both UTG and SB were pretty new to me at this time.]

[soda]

I'd have been more aggressive with the hand. I certainly want all the money in the pot by the turn with this hand. Something about reducing implied odds (to 0)in case someone is drawing with a set or the A or Q of clubs.

I really don't know or care if you won. But, that's not nice, so I hope you won.

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[adam74]

Hehe...well, you're right - whether I won or not isn't important. I was interested to hear if anyone would play it more aggressively, or perhaps not even pay it all (at any stage). I was playing it passively here because UTG was short-stacked, and so I wanted to separate him from what little money he had left, without possibly scaring him off with a raise. In facing UTG's turn bet, I was also concerned about the SB - I was hoping to keep him along for the ride as well. Finally, because UTG was short-stacked, there wasn't going to be a particularly heavy penalty if he did outdraw me. [Some of that is a bit confused, I think, but it's what was going through my head at the time.]

[nicky g]

You should raise the turn here, I think; there's not enough money left to bother slowplaying. He'll probably call a turn raise with anything reasonable; whereas with the bare A [img]/forums/images/icons/spade.gif[/img] or a pair and flush draw, he may not call the river (unless he's outdrawn you).

[soda]

In the games I play - 8Ts is a hand I'll play in any position unless the game has a lot of raises preflop - I might dump it early then.

Once the flop hits, I'm just going to make people pay for draws. In early position, I'll go for a check raise if that's likely to work. I'm all in here early - flop if possible, but definitely by the turn. You have almost about a 32-42% chance on each card that either a spade will come off or the board will pair. Both of which really hurt your hand. Get that money in quickly here. If you wait until the river or slow play this hand, you are losing money.

[Daithi]

Normally I would play a hand like that pretty fast, but since there wasn't a lot of money in the pot I too would have checked the flop and been praying the turn didn't bring a spade. However, I would have certainly got all my money in on the turn.