Carpenter wins NL Cy Young

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MLB web site

Carpenter (19-12-1)
Willis (11-18-3)
Clemens (2-2-24)

[CollinEstes]

No surprise, he deserved it.

[jakethebake]

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No surprise, he deserved it.

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Meh. He faded down the stretch, and got the benefit of playing on a better team for most of the season.

[pokerdirty]

I think you could make a case for each

let's look at the same comparison we gave Santana & Colon in the other AL Cy thread.

Wins: Willis 22, Carpenter 21
Losses: Carpenter 5, Willis 10
CG: Tied w/ 7 each
Shutouts: Willis 5, Carpenter 4
IP: Carpenter 241.2, Willis 236.1
ERA: Willis 2.63, Carpenter 2.83
WHIP: Carpenter 1.06, Willis 1.13
BAA: Carpenter .273, Willis .292
K: Carpenter 213, Willis 170
BB: Carpenter 51, Willis 55
K/BB: Carpenter 4.18, Willis 3.09
H: Carpenter 204, Willis 213
HR: Willis 11, Carpenter 18

A lot of the catagories are close, with Carpenter coming slightly ahead. It must help that the Cardinals made it to the playoffs, while the Marlins were playing golf in October.

Either that or it's because Willis is black.

[Benholio]

To be fair...


Wins: Willis 22, Carpenter 21, Clemens 13
Losses: Carpenter 5, Willis 10, Clemens 8
CG: Tied w/ 7 each, Clemens 7
Shutouts: Willis 5, Carpenter 4, Clemens 0
IP: Carpenter 241.2, Willis 236.1, Clemens 211.1
ERA: Willis 2.63, Carpenter 2.83, Clemens 1.87
WHIP: Carpenter 1.06, Willis 1.13, Clemens 1.01
BAA: Carpenter .273, Willis .292, Clemens .198
K: Carpenter 213, Willis 170, Clemens 185
BB: Carpenter 51, Willis 55, Clemens 62
K/BB: Carpenter 4.18, Willis 3.09, Clemens 2.98
H: Carpenter 204, Willis 213, Clemens 151
HR: Willis 11, Carpenter 18, Clemens 11

[pokerdirty]

i don't know how many he had, but clemens did not have 7 complete games.

[Benholio]

That should say 1. Too late to edit.

[technologic]

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I think you could make a case for each

let's look at the same comparison we gave Santana & Colon in the other AL Cy thread.

Wins: Willis 22, Carpenter 21
Losses: Carpenter 5, Willis 10
CG: Tied w/ 7 each
Shutouts: Willis 5, Carpenter 4
IP: Carpenter 241.2, Willis 236.1
ERA: Willis 2.63, Carpenter 2.83
WHIP: Carpenter 1.06, Willis 1.13
BAA: Carpenter .273, Willis .292
K: Carpenter 213, Willis 170
BB: Carpenter 51, Willis 55
K/BB: Carpenter 4.18, Willis 3.09
H: Carpenter 204, Willis 213
HR: Willis 11, Carpenter 18

A lot of the catagories are close, with Carpenter coming slightly ahead. It must help that the Cardinals made it to the playoffs, while the Marlins were playing golf in October.

Either that or it's because Willis is black.

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can you compare with 22 straight QUALITY starts? that's kind of ridiculous. take away the september carpenter was slacking because st. louis was going to coast into the playoffs, and you get no comparison. chris carpenter HANDS DOWN.

[pokerdirty]

both of them had awful septembers though. you can't forget about one month from the guy because his team was already in the playoffs.

[technologic]

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both of them had awful septembers though. you can't forget about one month from the guy because his team was already in the playoffs.

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true but i think cc has been more consistent overall, while dontrelle had a very good start then varied from start to start. consistency's pretty impt for a pitcher imo.