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Old 11-02-2005, 09:53 PM
private joker private joker is offline
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Default ace. queen. not. suited.

Villains in this particular hand are unknown, but it's a juicy BBJ table. The two biggest fish here folded PF.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (12 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero cries and...
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:57 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

I don't know what's going on in this hand, but you must be beat, right? BB must have QJ or J9 or QT or something that beats second pair.

If not, it's a bold bluff into three opponents on BB's part.
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:57 PM
JinX11 JinX11 is offline
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

Folds and spends the $10 on lunch tomorrow.
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

folds.
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:58 PM
27offsooot 27offsooot is offline
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

why did u bet the flop?
Fold the river. If BB were an absolute idiot, call. Unknown, fold.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

Isn't this a flop fold?

Edit: Hmm, well those limpers did coldcall, but how many outs are you giving yourself?
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

What would be the rationale for anything other than a fold?
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

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why did u bet the flop?


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Because often I have the best hand, often I can take a free card on the turn if I want, and often I can get better hands (like mid-PPs) to fold. Why would "u" [sic] not bet the flop?
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:09 PM
peterchi peterchi is offline
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

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why did u bet the flop?


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Because often I have the best hand, often I can take a free card on the turn if I want, and often I can get better hands (like mid-PPs) to fold. Why would "u" [sic] not bet the flop?

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I was debating this too. I don't think it's horrible, but into a field of 3, I'd definitely think twice about it. The chance that someone has something better than you and will call with it is not tiny.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:09 PM
Luv2DriveTT Luv2DriveTT is offline
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Default Re: ace. queen. not. suited.

I think I am folding the flop after I get check-raised by SB and the limpers come along.

Regardless, the turn bet is the toughest part of the hand IMHO. Its most likely correct, but I expect at least one of the opponents to be in the lead now.

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