AK, how badly did I play this ??

------HAND 2------
Game #1208328793: Hold'em NL (100/200) - 2005/11/01 - 21:10:02 (BST)
Table "Tourney 1317995 - 5" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: Pancho70 (2800 in chips)
Seat 2: Madmickel (1045 in chips)
Seat 3: Srdan0102 (2450 in chips)
Seat 4: luckyalan (2075 in chips)
Seat 5: Swinford (2100 in chips)
Seat 6: Paddyb001 (10325 in chips)
Seat 7: Coli03033 (3395 in chips)
Seat 8: Lynne005 (5980 in chips)
Seat 9: NevadaKaz (7690 in chips)
Seat 10: kaare25 (3717.50 in chips)
Madmickel: posts small blind 100
Srdan0102: posts big blind 200
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to NevadaKaz [Kd As]
luckyalan: calls 200
Swinford: folds
Paddyb001: folds
Coli03033: calls 200
Lynne005: folds
NevadaKaz: raises to 600
kaare25: folds
Pancho70: folds
Pancho70 sits out
Pancho70 sits back
Madmickel: calls 500
Srdan0102: folds
luckyalan: calls 400
Coli03033: calls 400
----- FLOP ----- [3s Jh 9h]
Madmickel: bets 445 and is all-in
luckyalan: calls 445
Coli03033: calls 445
NevadaKaz: raises to 7090 and is all-in
luckyalan: is all-in 1030
Coli03033: is all-in 2350
Returned uncalled bets 4,295 to NevadaKaz
----- TURN ----- [3s Jh 9h][Ad]
----- RIVER ----- [3s Jh 9h Ad][2h]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
NevadaKaz: shows [Kd As] (A Pair of Aces, King high)
Madmickel: shows [Kc Ks] (A Pair of Kings, Ace high)
luckyalan: shows [Qc Th] (High Card Ace)
Coli03033: shows [Ah 6h] (A Flush, Ace high)
Coli03033 collected 2640 from Side pot #2
Coli03033 collected 3090 from Side pot #1
Coli03033 collected 4380 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 10110 Main pot 4380 Side pot #1 3090 | Side pot #2 2640 | Rake 0
Board [3s Jh 9h Ad 2h]
Seat 1: Pancho70 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Srdan0102 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Swinford folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Paddyb001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Coli03033 showed [Ah 6h] and won (10110) with A Flush, Ace high
Seat 8: Lynne005 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: NevadaKaz lost
Seat 10: kaare25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[mlagoo]

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how badly did i play this ??

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Pretty bad?

Preflop you need to raise more. 3xBB is all fine and dandy, but when there are already two limpers, the pot is so big they are committed to calling. The raise should be to something like 800-1000.

After the flop, someone leads out and two people call. Pushing here is just really reckless. A) They are already damn near pot-committed with any decent hand; and B) They might fold TT, but aren't folding any jacks or QQ+ here. Call if you want to peel one off (you probably have odds). But don't push.


I hate how the dude with KK played his hand too. Just put your chips in there, donko de mayo.

[MrShawn2U]

Well you probably shouldnt have raised after an all-in from the shortstack and two calls. But if you hadnt , you almost certainly would have bet on the A on the turn. That might have scared the other two enough to fold, but probably not, and you would have had to push here. So probably the same outcome either way.

[dmk]

umm...really bad?

[MrShawn2U]

I have to agree the only way you could have played better was pushing harder preflop, but you wouldnt have lost the K's, and probably not the small stack either.

[mlagoo]

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So probably the same outcome either way.

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Yeah but the fact that that happens to be the case doesn't give his play any more viability.

But I agree, the chips are getting in on the turn.

Thanks for the input guys. I was feeling hard done by until I realised what a donk I am LOL

Thanks again for the input.

A further question,

If Madmickel (the guy holding KK) had pushed his 1045 chips before the flop, would I have been wrong to call (assuming no other callers) ?

Not being results orientated here, just curious.

[mlagoo]

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A further question,

If Madmickel (the guy holding KK) had pushed his 1045 chips before the flop, would I have been wrong to call (assuming no other callers) ?

Not being results orientated here, just curious.

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No.