Top Set w/ Straight Draw (Hand Analysis)

Here's a hand I just played. I might should have folded pre-flop, but I didn't... so after that, what would you have done on the flop and on the turn? If you call/raise on the turn, and the river is a rag, what do you do if (1) villian bets 1/3 the pot, or (2) villian checks?

Seat 1: kb2727 ($87.40 in chips)
Seat 2: hippieflyguy ($116.95 in chips)
Seat 3: ttulaw05 ($110.60 in chips)
Seat 4: Bettor-man ($36.30 in chips)
Seat 5: pro-fisher ($147.75 in chips)
Seat 6: HERO <font color="red">[5H,5D]</font> ($142.80 in chips)
Seat 7: pokermim ($50 in chips)
Seat 8: MikeNeli ($99 in chips)
Seat 9: Drawstep ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 10: DietCokeGod ($93 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
kb2727 posts blind ($0.50), hippieflyguy posts blind ($1), pokermim posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
ttulaw05 calls $1, Bettor-man bets $4, pro-fisher folds, HERO calls $4, pokermim calls $3, MikeNeli folds, Drawstep calls $4, DietCokeGod folds, kb2727 calls $3.50, hippieflyguy folds, ttulaw05 folds.

FLOP [board cards <font color="red">3D,5S,4D</font> ]
kb2727 checks, Bettor-man bets $10, HERO bets $33, pokermim folds, Drawstep folds, kb2727 calls $33, Bettor-man folds.

TURN [board cards <font color="red">3D,5S,4D,2C</font> ]
kb2727 bets $10, HERO .... DOES WHAT???

[PokerCat69]

Call $10. Fold river if board doesn't pair.

Agreed.

[ajmargarine]

Preflop call is marginal according to 5/10 given PFR's stack size. You got lucky that alot of people came along for the ride. Flop is fine. $96 pot that villian just bet $10 into on the turn. Looks pretty weak to me. Push. He's only got $40 behind.

[TexArcher]

Yes the $10 bet is weak into a pot that big, but it screams ACE that's being played by someone who doesn't know how to properly value bet. So no way I'm pushing here, call the $10 and hope for boat or quad, if you get it you can probably still get the rest of his chips if he's on the straight.

[Lucky]

Pre flop call is awful. You can only win 9 times what you're calling, people are still to act, so you could get whipsawed. For calling raises at the worse edges of the 5/10 rule, I like to be on the right of the raiser, i.e. i limp, he bumps it to 10% of his stack/4bb...and then there are 3 or 4 callers. You're the first caller.

Oh yeah, you didnt want comments on PF, sorry.

On turn, call, you're getting better than 8 to 1 for money and are 4 to 1 to hit. On river, if you miss, unless he makes a very gay bet, fold.

[PokerCat69]

How would you guys play this if the River was an Ace/6?

[ajmargarine]

If he has an ace, he **may** (1 in 10 maybe) lay it down to your obvious six. If he has a flush draw, he's pricing himself in and you have to push. Put it in there now, because if you call the pot is $106, and you shouldn't be folding for $40 on the river.

[nietzreznor]

Put him in

He won't fold an A, but he will call with a diamond draw or maybe an overpair or whatever. A $10 bet is weird, but it definitely could be a wide variety of things, certainly not limited to the straight.

And now... for the rest of the story:

TURN [board cards <font color="red">3D,5S,4D,2C</font> ]
kb2727 bets $10, HERO calls $10.

RIVER [board cards <font color="red">3D,5S,4D,2C,QD</font> ]
kb2727 bets $30, HERO folds.

SHOWDOWN
kb2727 wins $146.



I wish I knew what he had... but I'm guessing Axd. He may have been scared I might have a 6 on the turn, thus the weird $10 bet into a $96 pot. But, he had the pot-odds to go all-in for his flush draw, anyway, and even if he didn't, he probably wouldn't have folded his Ace. He was getting less than 2:1 odds on the flop to call my $33 raise with a straight or flush draw... but, I'm guessing that's what he had.