Straight vs. river push

bills217 · #1 10-29-2005, 01:54 AM

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Hero ($68.95)
UTG : (Villain)/ ($56.35)
MP ($65.40)
CO ($17.91)
Button ($52.10)
SB ($214.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG : (Villain)/ calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Villain bets $2, Button calls $2, SB folds, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($8) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $4, Button raises to $10, Hero raises to $25, Villain calls $21, Button folds.

River: ($68) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Villain calls $28.85 (All-In), Hero...

No read on Villain. Not really afraid of big cards since there was no pre-flop raise...I put him on J-x, or maybe Q-x for the straight. Feel free to analyze any streets.

nietzreznor · #2 10-29-2005, 02:36 AM

Bet flop. Or, once you check, put in a healthy check-raise. This flop is very draw heavy, and very likely to have hit someone. Do NOT slowplay here.

After board pairs on the turn, I wouldn't c/r. Either lead out, or just c/c. No need to bloat the pot further when you may be drawing dead.

Given your play... I probably call river and hope for the best. If villain is bad, then calling is easily best.

aces_dad · #3 10-29-2005, 03:03 AM

I would try to get more in on the flop with a lead or c/r. Probably lead small and hope to get a raise we can come over the top. The paired J on the turn makes boats from hands like J10 or KJ which may have limped so it's not a great card for you.

As played I probably call the river push only because it's small relative to pot but you lose this more than you win, did you consider leading with a small blocking bet? I guess anything like half his stack would have led villian to come over the top anyway.

bills217 · #4 10-29-2005, 04:20 AM

Villain held J-9.

Next time I will get more in on flop. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Maybe should've led river too, might've spared me my last few $ if he came back over top...although it would have still been a tough fold w/ no read.

#5 10-29-2005, 06:09 AM

lead the flop. You don't even have the nuts and this is a great board to get some action. But it's also the kind of board that you don't want to see pair up because someone could easily have two pair and fill up. So lead the flop, and lead the turn expecting to fold to a real raise. In fact, lead the turn saying out loud to yourself, "Don't go broke here. Don't go broke here. Fold to a raise. Fold to a raise." If the turn is called, c/c the river, but not a big all-in. As played, I probably call the river because of the way you played the hand and you're getting close to 3:1. But to be honest with you, you played this hand very badly IMO.

bills217 · #6 10-29-2005, 03:18 PM

Thanks for the honest analysis.

I find that I'm having trouble making these kinds of decisions while 4-tabling...I do some real fishy stuff every now and then because I'm not thinking. Need to work on that.

Lucky · #7 10-29-2005, 03:27 PM

This is ugly, bet flop, bet turn, if action gets crazy fold.

You dont even have nut straight. Granted, AQ prob doesnt limp. Still, so many boats are out there, without donk read, you're not wanting to play this for all your money.