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Old 10-27-2005, 07:32 PM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Default Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($532)
MP ($222.90)
Button ($1079.90)
Hero ($1048.55)
BB ($246.53)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $12</font>, Button calls $12, Hero (poster) calls $9, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($48) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $40</font>, MP folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $175</font>...
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

completely read dependent bluff imo. I'd like to know your reads on BB.
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:15 PM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

No reads. This is a bluff?
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

Ya its a bluff given you have A high, although a pretty damn strong semi bluff. I think I take the cheap draw, too often youll have to go allin vs a set or the made flush or straight.
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

This is the always popular Superman move. You are representing the nuts, and should fold out a lot of hands - Sets aren't even getting the right odds. Too bad you chose a guy with only $200 - he's probably not folding.
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

good point. i wait for the turn, make the nuts, then milk the remaining fools in the hand with me.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:18 AM
AnyutaDva AnyutaDva is offline
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

Hmm, what are your views on the player you are up against? I am guessing that his check raise could be anything from top two, trip 7's/10's, or since he was getting a nice price to play any suited connectors, a flush that could be anything from 45 of spades to JQ of spades. I guess he'd fold top two, call with either of the sets, and make a decision about his flush based on how high it is. Against an average player I just think that this semi-bluff doesn't have a huge amount of fold equity, as the top two pairs are the only hand he is very likely to fold, and a lot of players are going to call through gritted teeth with even the smallest of flushes despite the fact you have played your hand like a big flush.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

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good point. i wait for the turn, make the nuts, then milk the remaining fools in the hand with me.

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yeah unfortunatly A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on a 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] board isn't exactly a very well concealed monster after you check/call the flop and go insane on the turn.
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:11 AM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

Yeah... so what do you do here?
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:12 AM
Chaostracize Chaostracize is offline
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Default Re: Check. Call. Reraise. Yuck? 600 pl

No reads, this was like the second orbit. But calling the min raise and closing the action could be almost any two. His stack size was just really uncomfortable for this hand.
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