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Old 10-27-2005, 04:49 PM
Talk2BigSteve Talk2BigSteve is offline
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Default JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

UTG+2 is a Maniac with a VP$IP% of 38.79 who had gone to the river with Q3o & A6o the prior 2 hands.

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Preflop: Talk2BigSteve is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Talk2BigSteve raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Talk2BigSteve bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Talk2BigSteve bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Talk2BigSteve calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Talk2BigSteve bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Talk2BigSteve calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Big Steve [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

On the turn when you didn't 3-bet.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

I 3bet the turn. If he is that big of a maniac I probably c/r the river if he caps the turn. If he's LAGGY but not that big of a maniac I bet/call or check/call the river if he caps the turn.

EDIT: Just curious, but why didn't you 3bet the turn. When you get a big hand like this against a maniac just put as many bets in as possible, they are not going to have you beat that often.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

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On the turn when you didn't 3-bet.

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Old 10-27-2005, 04:57 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

If UTG+2 is a maniac, I think you should have put in a little more action. I would have 3-bet the turn.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

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On the turn when you didn't 3-bet.



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or teh river where you didn't 3bet.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

Wait, I found another spot.

On the river when you didn't 3-bet.

Edit: car ramrod has good timing.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:04 PM
car ramrod car ramrod is offline
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

after I saw your response and your avatar (greate movie by the way), I almost responded to teh op that he was 'acting like a little bitch right now' for not raising. I don't know him well enough or I would have. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

Against a maniac when I have JJJ on this board, I'm 3-betting the river and hoping Villain caps. I think you win over 90% of the time and lose to a straight or set of Kings the other 10%.

I probably would have also 3-bet the turn so that I make him pay for the times he's on a draw.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: JJ - Where did I screw this one up?

Stick it in...

Wait a minute, this isn't OOT?!

I definitely 3bet the turn and lead the river. I'm not sure about bet/calling or check/calling the river if capped.
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