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Old 10-18-2005, 07:57 PM
Jurollo Jurollo is offline
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Default Were there gay native americans?

Just a random thought. But in all the books I have read outside of a school setting about US history or anything even similar I have never heard the mention of a homosexual indian. Were there gay indians? Were there openly gay indians? If there wasn't gay indians what started homosexuality? I mean this sounds like a funny question to ask but it could have some merit on the seeds of homosexuality being sociological or psychological and this whole line of questioning comes from a stupid joke I heard a week ago. Discuss.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Were there gay native americans?

can't liamas be gay too?
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:03 PM
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Shamans were sometimes gay. Some tribes had recognition of guys that were thought of as both men and women. They were thought to have special insight into the spirit world, I guess like Tiresias in Greek legend.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:09 PM
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Who was Tiresias again? I just remember him being the one to tell Oedipus that he did in fact kill his father and marry his mother. The Greeks were sick.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:16 PM
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My memory could be better, but I recall him as the blind seer who could see the future and had better insight not only because he was blind, but also because he had been both a man and a woman, and wound up a hermaphrodite. I don't remember anything else about him except he cropped up in a T.S. Eliot poem, The Wasteland, I think, and supposedly said sex was better as a woman.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Were there gay native americans?

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Who was Tiresias again? I just remember him being the one to tell Oedipus that he did in fact kill his father and marry his mother. The Greeks were sick.

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He was an old seer, who was turned into a woman when he killed a female snake having sex. Some years and adventures later, he was turned back into a man after killing the male of another set of snakes.

As one of the only people to be a man and a woman, Zeus, to settle a dispute with Hera, asked him who enjoyed sex more, men or women. He told the truth: women, and was blinded by Hera.

For fun, read Plato's Phaedo some time.
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: Were there gay native americans?

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Shamans were sometimes gay. Some tribes had recognition of guys that were thought of as both men and women. They were thought to have special insight into the spirit world, I guess like Tiresias in Greek legend.

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dude, is there anything you don't know about? from your posts in OOT i gotta think you'd kick ass at jeopardy...

"does anyone know if plankton prefer doggy style or missionary?"

blarg: "actually plankton prefer the cowboy, ..."
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:54 PM
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Shamans were sometimes gay. Some tribes had recognition of guys that were thought of as both men and women. They were thought to have special insight into the spirit world, I guess like Tiresias in Greek legend.

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dude, is there anything you don't know about? from your posts in OOT i gotta think you'd kick ass at jeopardy...

"does anyone know if plankton prefer doggy style or missionary?"

blarg: "actually plankton prefer the cowboy, ..."

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LOL...and what would follow would be a 3 paragraph dissertation on the mating habits of plankton. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Were there gay native americans?

There was in Little Big Man - the character Little Horse.
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Were there gay native americans?

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There was in Little Big Man - the character Little Horse.

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I think it was Little Bear. I thought he had pretty eyes...uh, never mind.
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