can i fold this river?

jsnipes28 · #1 10-19-2005, 01:34 AM

50 NL6MAX
Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and raises to $2
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, BB calls.
pot~$8
Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero bets $5, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, BB folds.
Pot~$17
Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets $8, UTG+1 calls $8
Pot~$32
River: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $30 putting hero all in.
Hero...

In the hand i assumed the flop bet being called meant he had kq, qj or a set. After the 2nd queen came, i assumed he would raise me with kq or a full house. He flat called, but the river K really scared me. I just thought he had KQ. Anyhow, i called and villain turned over KK for a very craftily played KK.
This isn't meant to be a bad beat post or anything like that.
So, if i assume he has a Q, should i have tried to charge any Q more to try and fill up, or should i keep the bet smallish to try and induce a raise by weaker trips? Is this a fold on the river, or can i assume any Q is making that play on the river?

PoBoy321 · #2 10-19-2005, 02:00 AM

Bet more on the flop and turn, it'll make your river decision much easier. Also, I'm gonna call the river but not be really happy about it.

Allinlife · #3 10-19-2005, 02:01 AM

must call sir.

#4 10-19-2005, 02:41 AM

very tough fold on the river. Your only chance was to push on the turn, and maybe he will make a big lay down of the kings, but since you should assume your hand is good with trip queens there is no need to push a player off thier hand on the turn. Especially if you think hes got a q with a weeker kicker. Also you have invested 15 in the pot. Unless you are very sure you are beat that is a tough lay down

scdavis0 · #5 10-19-2005, 02:48 AM

Yeah I fold this river all day and twice on sundays.

WTF?