AK hits flop, did I extract as much as I could have?

Yako · #1 10-19-2005, 05:00 PM

Yeah, I think it sad that I have to ask such basic questions even though I've been playing 2/4 for about 15k hands now...

So villain is 41.18/0/0 after 17 hands.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
6 folds, Hero raises, SB :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Villain bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets, Villain calls.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Now, did I use the right line here to extract as much as I could? For some reason, I thought he might be bluffing, so I decided to call the flop and turn bets and raise the river, because that's what wins me the most money when he is bluffing (Note, I do expect him to bluff the river too). But if he has a weaker king, what wins me the most money? Is it this same line? If it isn't, then it was the turn I was supposed to raise? So yeah, I'm a pretty lousy 2/4 player [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Editted for the topic grammar [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

stillbr · #2 10-19-2005, 05:22 PM

Looks good. If he had bet the river I would raise any card that fell.

toss · #3 10-19-2005, 05:35 PM

You really need to stick in a raise on the flop or turn. Villain can easily be betting with a lower kicker or lower pocket pair.

bobhalford · #4 10-19-2005, 05:41 PM

I don't think I've ever done this with AK, but it's an interesting line. I would raise the turn, but that might be an expensive if he has trips. If he has a K (more likely than trips), he will call your raise on the turn and then maybe another bet on the river, making you 3BB as opposed to your line which only gets you 2 BB.

uw_madtown · #5 10-19-2005, 05:43 PM

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Yeah, I think it sad that I have to ask such basic questions even though I've been playing 2/4 for about 15k hands now...

So villain is 41.18/0/0 after 17 hands.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
6 folds, Hero raises, SB :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Villain bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain bets, Hero raises.

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Whew. That's better.

Yako · #6 10-19-2005, 06:50 PM

Just to clarify, I was like 99.9% sure that I had the best hand. I just wanted to make sure I got as much money out of it as possible. But yeah, I realize now that it's better to raise the turn.

As it turns out, villain had KQ, and totally choked when the A fell on the river. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

#7 10-19-2005, 06:54 PM

i raise the turn. the villain probably has a weak king like k10, and there is no way he is folding to a turn raise. it seems like hes bad enough that he would call down with any pair in this spot, despite the strength you show on the turn.