Monster draw, small pot, and possibly already dead

Spicymoose · #1 10-15-2005, 07:57 AM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP raises, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

I'm getting about 4:1 on my call, but I could be dead to a higher flush, or full house. If I am completely clean, I have 15 outs. Discounting that hugely, 10:1, and I should still call, but do I need to discount even more?

Digs · #2 10-15-2005, 10:45 AM

Fold the turn, this doesn't look close.

Your draw sucks, the pot's small.

Spicymoose · #3 10-15-2005, 10:48 AM

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Fold the turn, this doesn't look close.

Your draw sucks, the pot's small.

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What if we had the same action, but the turn was the 2 of spades?

Digs · #4 10-15-2005, 10:52 AM

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Fold the turn, this doesn't look close.

Your draw sucks, the pot's small.

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What if we had the same action, but the turn was the 2 of spades?

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Easy fold, I don't know how many outs the flush is worth, but with the negative implied odds they can't be worth much. So you have basically 6 outs + you could already be dominated by a flopped flush. And 3 of your 6 outs don't even make you the nut str.

I really muck this when it's 2 to me without thinking much regardless of a turn card that doesnt improve us.

#5 10-15-2005, 11:21 AM

Easy turn fold.