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Old 10-12-2005, 04:41 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

still getting used to games > 6 players. i figured 3betting a CO steal vs a TAG is OK right?

after the hand he called me a fish and said i should have folded the flop. anyone like the flop call?

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (9.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:46 PM
ihardlyknowher ihardlyknowher is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

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still getting used to games &gt; 6 players. i figured 3betting a CO steal vs a TAG is OK right?

after the hand he called me a fish and said i should have folded the flop. anyone like the flop call?

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (9.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

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If CO's ASB&gt;35, I would play it exactly like you.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:46 PM
shmahappens shmahappens is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

If he's really tight (as tag implies) then threebetting with this hand doesn't seem so good - and on the flop you are pretty thin. Nice runner runner suckout. Painful to watch...
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

PF is thin (read : fold)
flop is just bad... look at that board.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

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flop is just bad... look at that board.

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right but at least the flop didnt hit him either right? and neither of my cards complete any straight draws.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

it's SOP vs a lurker to put them on aces and cap every street. with the name 'baron' it's truly a no-brainer.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

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flop is just bad... look at that board.

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right but at least the flop didnt hit him either right? and neither of my cards complete any straight draws or anything right?

[/ QUOTE ]he wont fold Ahigh and you might be drawing dead/slim.
BTW/ why did you not raise the turn? you peel on a flop which you got absolutely no piece, nail it on fourth , and just call? i dont get it? you had him on QQ?
do you get my point??
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:55 PM
JohnnyHumongous JohnnyHumongous is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

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flop is just bad... look at that board.

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right but at least the flop didnt hit him either right? and neither of my cards complete any straight draws.

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That's poor logic for calling... if your cards could complete a straight draw that would mean you would have a straight draw... which is of course much better than a pair draw...
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

On the flop you are getting 13 to 1, so basically you need to have about 3 clean outs. Pretty close, i still think fold b/c that doesnt take into account the times you hit an king and lose 3BB to AK. This also doesnt take into account his redraws when you do suck out. I cant think of a hand you have more than 3 outs to, so really i think a flop fold is in order.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 KTs vs lurker (misplayed somewhere for sure)

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flop is just bad... look at that board.

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Even getting 13.5:1?
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