(22) please tell me if this is a bad fold

[unreal_nh]

***** Hand History for Game 2823782428 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16320809 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, October 04, 13:05:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 13825 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 6: Texas_Tiger ( $775 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $785 )
Seat 2: Bemben18 ( $740 )
Seat 4: dreamkiller7 ( $800 )
Seat 5: GoTuToFoLD ( $625 )
Seat 7: murphyda ( $1000 )
Seat 9: IamBoognish ( $2655 )
Seat 8: Oliver19 ( $620 )
Trny:16320809 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ks Jc ]

GoTuToFoLD folds.
Texas_Tiger folds.
murphyda calls [15].
Oliver19 calls [15].
IamBoognish folds.
Bemben18 folds.
HERO calls [5].
dreamkiller7 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 5d, 6c ] POT = 60

HERO bets [55].
dreamkiller7 folds.

murphyda raises [185].

Oliver19 folds.
HERO folds.

[schwza]

i'd fold for sure there.

I'd say its a standard fold without any really specific reads.

What if you pushed? You would be called by 55 or 66, or maybe even QK concidering its a $22, and I dont see villain raising that amount with anything else very often at all.

What if you called? You would probably be forced to check/fold the turn unless a jack or king fell, and its not even very certain youre ahead then.

This looks to me like like a decently solid villain protecting a set from a board with lots of draws (especially against limpers like you).

[zambonidrivr]

fold preflop. pretty cut and dry.

u have donked off roughly 9% of your stack with KJ.
i know this sounds harsh, but ask yourself this.... what expectations did you have limping into this pot? so you hit a king... now what? reasonable chance you're out kicked. so you hit 2 pair and are rerised as you were here... then what? rule of thumb for me,,, know what your expectations are when entering a hand, and know when to get out. It's level 1, what's the upside? multi action limped pots are a great way to get out early.

my $.02

[schwza]

hero is SB.

and it's under 7%.

[sahala]

While I agree that it's a fold, obviously villain somehow picked up 200 chips a few hands earlier, so you have at least one read. Was it uncontested, or did he show down a decent hand?

Regardless I wouldn't be surprised to see two pair, a set, or KQ.

[pokerdirty]

tell me who that is in your avatar and where i can find her naked, i'll tell you if it's a bad fold... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[SonnyJay]

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fold preflop. pretty cut and dry.


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I think he's getting 11:1 on a preflop call with KJ out of the SB and it doesn't impact his stack very much. I think you have to at least see some cards with it.

I realize it's a tough hand to play postflop and unless you end up with 2 pair or better you aren't going to be playing very confidently, but it's a very small investment. I like hero's line here.

-SonnyJay

[jedinite]

That's Jessica Simpson from her latest (?) video of her done up in the Dukes of Hazard gear, washing the General Lee. You can probably find the video on MTV.com (pure assumption) but knowing who/what should help you cut it down

[unreal_nh]

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fold preflop. pretty cut and dry.

u have donked off roughly 9% of your stack with KJ.
i know this sounds harsh, but ask yourself this.... what expectations did you have limping into this pot? so you hit a king... now what? reasonable chance you're out kicked. so you hit 2 pair and are rerised as you were here... then what? rule of thumb for me,,, know what your expectations are when entering a hand, and know when to get out. It's level 1, what's the upside? multi action limped pots are a great way to get out early.

my $.02

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i really dont think folding preflop is "cut and dry".. what am i getting there, 11 to 1? what am i expecting for a flop? well trips would be nice (i would be happy with my kicker).. maybe a straight? i really dont think i can fold this preflop

i think i need to bet out on the flop to see where i'm at -- i would consider this move less donkish since you could lose more check calling. i think check-folding is just way too weak tight. there is a very good chance i could have the best hand there.