Too much/too little action?

private joker · #1 10-05-2005, 05:35 AM

UTG is a relatively decent player from what little I've seen (though he looks like a calling station in this PF and flop action) and I wanted to protect my hand against him, hence the flop c/r. Button was an aggressive player, but not retarded.

Did I slow down at the right or wrong time?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls, Button caps, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, Button raises, Hero calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB

stigmata · #2 10-05-2005, 05:46 AM

I play it the same.

daryn · #3 10-05-2005, 06:27 AM

i probably play the same, but it looks like you lost to kk

private joker · #4 10-05-2005, 06:28 AM

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i probably play the same, but it looks like you lost to kk

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Neither of you guys lead the flop?

brazilio · #5 10-05-2005, 06:28 AM

Something about hands like these kind of bugs me. Your hand is essentially transparent. You got capped preflop yet you capped the flop 3-bet and he still raised the turn. The other AA is very unlikely, and he wouldn't raise you on the turn once you showed that much flop strength.

private joker · #6 10-05-2005, 06:32 AM

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Something about hands like these kind of bugs me. Your hand is essentially transparent. You got capped preflop yet you capped the flop 3-bet and he still raised the turn. The other AA is very unlikely, and he wouldn't raise you on the turn once you showed that much flop strength.

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So you're saying fold to the turn raise? As I said, my read on Button was that he was a pretty aggressive player. I thought there was a decent chance he was on AK here, and I had outs against a possible but unlikely KT.

ArturiusX · #7 10-05-2005, 06:33 AM

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Something about hands like these kind of bugs me. Your hand is essentially transparent. You got capped preflop yet you capped the flop 3-bet and he still raised the turn. The other AA is very unlikely, and he wouldn't raise you on the turn once you showed that much flop strength.

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Me too, but I just justify it as an overplayed AK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

jason_t · #8 10-05-2005, 06:39 AM

AK - 6

KK - 3
KT - 9 discounted
TT - 3
33 - 3 discounted

brazilio · #9 10-05-2005, 06:41 AM

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Something about hands like these kind of bugs me. Your hand is essentially transparent. You got capped preflop yet you capped the flop 3-bet and he still raised the turn. The other AA is very unlikely, and he wouldn't raise you on the turn once you showed that much flop strength.

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So you're saying fold to the turn raise? As I said, my read on Button was that he was a pretty aggressive player. I thought there was a decent chance he was on AK here, and I had outs against a possible but unlikely KT.

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I'm not really advocating any specific action here, he is aggressive. I just think all options lead directly to suck, and it pisses me off having to call down in positions like this even though it's supposed to be the right play.

stigmata · #10 10-05-2005, 06:47 AM

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i probably play the same, but it looks like you lost to kk

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Neither of you guys lead the flop?

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Like you say, we want to reduce UTGs odds, as he could well have gutshot, middle pair etc type of hands.