An AA hand possible misplayed..

britspin · #1 10-06-2005, 07:45 AM

Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 folds, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets

Is the turn raise here justified given the flop play and his leadout? would I have been better to cap flop then call down?

Paxosmotic · #2 10-06-2005, 07:51 AM

I play it the same so I can raise his inevitable turn bet. Call down meekly after the turn 3-bet, though. Nice hand.

#3 10-06-2005, 08:06 AM

Is there a reason not to cap the flop?

Nfinity · #4 10-06-2005, 08:09 AM

I like it, it allows you to put the breaks on early if the 3rd diamond falls on the Turn.

britspin · #5 10-06-2005, 08:10 AM

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Paxosmotic had it- I think I'm ahead, so I want to raise the turn lead. On this flop I'm expecting to see AK/Q, 88-KK a lot- I want to try and get him to put more in.

jrz1972 · #6 10-06-2005, 08:13 AM

Looks good to me. Too bad if he had 99.

Nfinity · #7 10-06-2005, 08:16 AM

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None that I see, we are probably still ahead most of the time and there is only value in it. It is however a rather fanciful play to get more money in when we are likely ahead, leaving him with the initiative on the flop coaxes him to lead the Turn so we can raise again.

It also allows us to save a measley SB when something frightening falls on the Turn, a diamond or a K maybe? You could also make a case for it sparing us from any surprising Check-raises in this situation.

Fantam · #8 10-06-2005, 09:41 AM

I think that you should have capped the flop.

The only reasonable preflop raising hand for UTG that was beating you was 99. Also if UTG had had 99, a lot of players would have tried to check/raise you on the flop (or turn).

So I think that it was more likely that UTG had a high overpair like KK - TT and 3-bet the flop in case you had AK or a lower pair.

After you capped the flop, I would have expected UTG to start to slowdown. And I think that you should have continued to play your hand strongly on the turn, as I expect that you most probably had the best hand.

Paxosmotic · #9 10-06-2005, 09:45 AM

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None that I see, we are probably still ahead most of the time and there is only value in it. It is however a rather fanciful play to get more money in when we are likely ahead, leaving him with the initiative on the flop coaxes him to lead the Turn so we can raise again.

It also allows us to save a measley SB when something frightening falls on the Turn, a diamond or a K maybe? You could also make a case for it sparing us from any surprising Check-raises in this situation.

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You give every reason why I feel calling the 3-bet is correct.

#10 10-06-2005, 09:49 AM

I like calling the 3bet on the flop, as it encourages UTG+1 to bet the turn so we can raise him. As of the flop, I am not expecting him to have us beat.

After he 3bets us on the turn, I call down, as he's now representing a set of 6's or 9's. I certainly don't fold, as he could easily have pocket tens-kings (or, hell, maybe pocket aces too).