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Old 10-02-2005, 11:13 PM
me454555 me454555 is offline
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Default HU against a fellow 2+2er

Live play 9/18 full. Even though the game is full, the hand ended up HU so I figured this was the right forum for it.

I'm UTG w/AK and raise it up. A 2+2er friend of mine, reraises me and its folded around to me. I call.

Flop K95r

I check he bets I call

Turn T

I bet, he folds

Is there any other way to get more money outta him? Does anyone check the turn or checkraise the flop?
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: HU against a fellow 2+2er

I think I check-raise the flop here. What exactly were you trying to accomplish by betting the turn?
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:18 PM
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I was afraid he'd check it through w/a hand like QQ, JJ, or AQ and he might call a bet if he doesn't think I have a K. Honestly, I dont know what I was thinking at time but I knew I didn't like the way I played it.
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: HU against a fellow 2+2er

Check/raising lets <QQ pairs get away too easily, doesn't it?
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: HU against a fellow 2+2er

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Check/raising lets <QQ pairs get away too easily, doesn't it?

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What does check/calling do? I would be afraid of QQ checking behind the turn after seeing us call, and also afraid of him folding to a turn lead. It would be really tough to find a line that takes QQ to showdown here.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: HU against a fellow 2+2er

Raise the flop. Lead the turn. Dont check the turn, you only have one pair.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:17 AM
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You mean checkraise the flop and lead the turn? I think that screams K so he folds any hand that I'm ahead of except for KQs. He also knows I'm a 2+2er w/very solid raising standards utg so he's even less likely to isolate w/a hand like KQs
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:22 AM
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Default Re: HU against a fellow 2+2er

You have to play this hand in a way where QQ can't fold. So I check call the flop and turn, then probably bet the river. Even if he checks behind on the turn, he probably only has 2 outs - and then he is most certainly calling a river bet. OOP you just can't get that much value on this hand, but playing it passively is the best way to maximize.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: HU against a fellow 2+2er

if checkraising this flop is gonna define your hand in such a way that he will fold to a flop checkraise, you should probably cap preflop. I'm guessing that if you capped preflop and led the flop he would call you down with QQ/JJ if your preflop capping range is wide enough.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: HU against a fellow 2+2er

Hi me,

In most cases, I would definitely 4-bet preflop if it's folded all the way back to me and headsup. He is clearly trying to isolate you, and you may want to take control back of the hand. In the odd yet not so infrequent cases in which you have the same hand, it's good to keep the lead. If you're not behind to AA or KK, you still have the overcards to spike on the flop.

In your particular case, I would prefer a check-raise or a bet out. If he doesn't have AA, he will most likely check behind on the turn. You might as well get the extra sb in. If you feel he's going to raise a flop bet to get a free river, you can 3-bet. The time to make money is the flop. In most cases also, I wouldn't want him to hit is 22-to-1 shot.

By the way, the turn was an offsuit jack. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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