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Old 10-01-2005, 04:05 PM
SlyGuy SlyGuy is offline
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Default Dump?

Am i playing hands like this correctly? I am trying to find leaks and often these hands feel wrong. Villain is a TAG. 22/11ish.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB



Villain here is a 68/25 over 44 hands.
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.16 BB
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:21 PM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: Dump?

Both seem fairly standard. Possibly 3-bet in hand #1, but I am not sure if this is actually a good move.
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Old 10-01-2005, 05:28 PM
EvanJC EvanJC is offline
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Default Re: Dump?

they both look perfect to me
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Old 10-01-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: Dump?

Against a 68/25 in hand 2 I would very likely cap the flop and lead the turn, calling down in the face of further aggression.

Hand 1 is perfect.
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Old 10-02-2005, 01:19 AM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Against a 68/25 in hand 2 I would very likely cap the flop and lead the turn

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Why is this? Those numbers only reveal information for preflop, and given the numbers, Villain is MORE likely to have some crazy 2-pair or set than normal. What about this opponent makes you think he is 3-betting a check raise with less than TPGK?
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Old 10-02-2005, 01:51 AM
TTChamp TTChamp is offline
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If this guy is capable of raising one fourth of all hands pf, then it seems likely that he is capable of raising this flop w a flush draw, a str8 draw, middle pair, top pair weak kicker, or even overs or a hand like 99 or tt. Wouldn't it suck if you gave him a free turn...your hand is extremely vulnerable. By capping the flop and leading the turn you punish him for his aggression.

I am not advocating that cap/lead is a good play everytime here, just trying to justify it against a LAG.
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Old 10-02-2005, 02:14 AM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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I don't know why you'd bet into the pfr on the flop in hand 1. You just give him a chance to dump KQo cheaply.

In hand 1 I think you should bet-fold the river if you're going to call because that flush card protects your from a raise and he might have raised for a free showdown on the turn.

Hand 2 is good. I might give a little more action, but I don't assume Villain is a maniac.

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Villain here is a 68/25 over 44 hands.

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Old 10-02-2005, 02:15 AM
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I like checking the flop in hand #1. Let the other guy come along too, and the TAG is betting that flop almost 100% of the time.
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